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I tossed this up as a way to keep track of pages that were imported here from wts-old. Some relevant discussions have been swept/copied below. --Peter ^Talk 05:46, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

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Swept in from the pub

Special:Import is disabled by default on WMF projects. I requested that it be enabled on our wiki, but I'm not sure that request is going anywhere. I asked a steward for help, who recommended that I request the rights for myself. Do I have the community's support? I'm looking to import relevant policy pages and discussions that I downloaded from wts-old. --Peter ^Talk 02:08, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

I believe the user group "Importers" on this wiki will give you the relevant permissions (importupload) that will allow you to upload from a file upload, i.e. the XML file. I would recommend that you also request this on SRP, as far as I'm concerned this is a fairly uncontroversial request as you are doing this to preserve the page histories and can be deemed to be part of the work necessary for the migration, but I'll leave others to comment here too. With regards to the bug request that you filed, that would be to enable you to import from other wikis such as Meta-Wiki or the English Wikipedia as far as I am aware, and I think Sam was asking you for which import sources you wanted. Thehelpfulone 03:25, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

I support giving Peter the "importers" group permission. Maybe we should have a separate page for Wikivoyage:Permission requests or something like that? --Rogerhc (talk) 03:57, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

I also support Peter's idea. --Alexander (talk) 07:04, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Peter is definitely competent and reliable, so I don't see any problem with assigning the "importer" permission. I hope that he will be assigned the permission so that he can start importing the needed pages. --Stefan2 (talk) 14:31, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

I don't know about competent. But fairly reliable, yes. --Peter ^Talk 18:39, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Support - we need these pages to be imported. –sumone10154^(talk) 17:41, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

I have made the request. --Peter ^Talk 18:50, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

I poked a steward, you've now been granted the flag by PeterSymonds. Thehelpfulone 21:06, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Support Pashley (talk) 19:13, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Support. Do we need to get this permission for one or two other admins/bureaucrats? • • • Peter (Southwood) ^(talk): 20:42, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Aren't there only a few policy pages that need to be imported? Unless there are too many of them, I guess that one user can handle it all. --Stefan2 (talk) 22:00, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Many edits on Shared are credited to "(WT-shared) Xyz". You might wish to create accounts with those user names before importing anything. If you do that, then it might be possible to re-assign those edits to other accounts later by merging accounts. If you don't create the accounts before importing the edits, then I think that the edits will be assigned to user id 0, and then the revisions might be stuck with the user names "(WT-shared) Xyz" forever. --Stefan2 (talk) 22:00, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Interesting. Should I just create the accounts by using the "register a new account" link from my own ip? --Peter ^Talk 01:45, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

The correct way to create the accounts would be using Special:CreateAccount while logged in. That way, it is clear that you created the accounts, and you get to specify a reason why you are creating extra accounts. I'm not sure what you should do about passwords though. This, that and the other (talk) 02:24, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

You can create the accounts "by email" and perhaps use an email address that you know doesn't work if you want to scramble the passwords. With regards to registering the accounts, you would need to do it from your own admin account as we have a 6 account per 24 hour limit on IP account creation which is automatically bypassed if you are an administrator. Thehelpfulone 03:01, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

Importing wts pages

While I wait through the unbelievably long process of importing the wts pub (nearly 1.5 hours now), are there other pages that people want imported? I already imported Copyleft, Image policy, and Bureaucrats, along with their respective talk pages. I also plan to import the wts pub archives. Are there other policy pages or talk pages we should keep? Should we import feature requests? --Peter ^Talk 07:32, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

If a user signed the Licence upgrade page, then all of the user's contributions to Wikitravel are available under CC-BY-SA 3.0. There is a similar page here (Wikivoyage:License upgrade), but with partially different signatures. It may be a good idea to keep a record of the WTS signatures somewhere.

There is also MediaWiki:Uploadtext which says that certain files might be available under a licence if the uploader didn't specify any licence. There is a local MediaWiki:Uploadtext with similar contents, but it has been edited by different people and at different points, so it might be a good idea to keep both pages. Be careful, though: since there's a different page with the same name on this project, you might accidentally end up merging the history of the local page with the history of the WTS page.

Do we need "Votes for deletion" or individual user/user talk pages for any users? --Stefan2 (talk) 14:29, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

Vfd can be skipped, as it's not a place for making policy, but for applying it. I imported my own user talk page just for kicks, and will do the same for others on request. I have imported the license upgrade and uploadtext pages per your suggestion. I think feature requests would be the next thing to work on, unless there are other suggestions here. --Peter ^Talk 00:11, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

FYI, that pub import I started last night is still going strong nearly 12 hours later, and I'm getting worried that it will keep on submitting indefinitely. Does anyone know what to do about this? It is a big XML file (over 100MB). --Peter ^Talk 21:21, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

You might be running into filesize limits - see [1]. If I'm reading this right then I think you can split the file up into smaller pieces and try uploading the parts, although it would be good to either have someone else confirm or to do a test first. -- Ryan • (talk) • 21:30, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

Yes, m:Help:Import suggests that there is some maximum size limit. The example uses 20 MB, so maybe that's what's used by Wikimedia projects?

The history can be split up in multiple files (see mw:Manual:Parameters to Special:Export), but this requires using options which don't seem to be available in the web form at Special:Export. Do you need help splitting it up in multiple files? I should be able to do something... --Stefan2 (talk) 22:27, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

Yes, if you could help with that, it would be much appreciated. Hopefully we won't run into this too much outside the huge pub history. --Peter ^Talk 23:12, 11 January 2013 (UTC)