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Things to mention[edit]

for example Hobbitschuster (talk) 23:53, 29 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Why are the listing markers orange?[edit]

It seems from the source code that it's supposed to be something to do with chocolate. I really don't see the point in that. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 00:19, 31 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

If anything, it would be nice to make them all a nice dark brown. :-) Ikan Kekek (talk) 01:00, 31 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah it is meant to be a "chocolate" colour but it looks too orange and not brown enough. I think the closest colour we have to chocolate is "maroon" though brown is also available. Gizza (roam) 01:11, 31 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think it's worth bothering with too much. But I can see that it's a good in-joke for anyone who knows what the colors should be. Honestly, though, I don't think there's one color (colour) that could do the job. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 01:29, 31 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

What to list[edit]

I don't think we want to list only cities with chocolate factories or where chocolate-making was invented, etc. I think we should list cities with great chocolate stores, and mention them by name. For example, in Berlin/Mitte there is this place. What are the great chocolate stores in Paris? Vienna? Etc. We have to be very selective and list only the best of the best, places that are worth at least a detour to a city just to go there. Ikan Kekek (talk) 02:56, 31 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I saw this as an issue with the listing of Birmingham (UK) as the factory for Cadbury's chocolate. First issue is that the quality of Cadbury's is not regarded as that high. Secondly why would anyone be interested to visit it? I put the visitor centre/themepark listing instead.
Chocolate is made all over the world, but we I agree that we should restrict listings to those where connoisseurs and enthusiasts would like to visit. Andrewssi2 (talk) 03:39, 31 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I think Girardelli (it's hard to spell; I had to look it up before I got it right) needs to be mentioned. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 03:42, 31 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Another issue with visiting cocoa plantations in the Ivory Coast where the raw product is farmed but almost never processed into chocolate. We should ask the question around why a destination is worthy of a visit. Andrewssi2 (talk) 03:44, 31 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I would list factories that can be toured even if their chocolate is not good, just for the interest of the tour. Hersheys was the chocolate I used to like before I had tried Cadbury's, and then after I tried Lindt, I no longer ate either of the others. Now, I know there are chocolates way better than Lindt. But the really best chocolates I've had are artisanal ones that you have at a special chocolate store.
I think it's fine to list cocoa plantations that welcome visitors, too, because it's very interesting to see the cacao trees and hear from them on how they are harvested and processed. I have a cousin who's growing cacao trees and making chocolate on the Big Island of Hawaii, and she let me try a cacao bean off the tree. Not surprisingly, it tasted like bitter chocolate. Ikan Kekek (talk) 04:46, 31 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I also tried cocoa from a plantation as a child. Yes, extremely bitter. But would you visit a country to tour its plantations?
I would say that the very large amount of small chocolate factories around the world would make this a very long list. That is why I suggested having some criteria of high-end chocolate to keep it focused. Andrewssi2 (talk) 09:57, 31 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I see. Well, what do you think of high-end or famous? I don't think it makes sense to ignore Hershey's because their chocolate is insipid, as it's so famous in the U.S. On plantation tours: I wouldn't visit a country just to tour its plantations, but if you're already visiting a country, taking a plantation tour could be interesting, so if there are some countries where there are particularly good cacao plantation tours, it would be worth mentioning them. Ikan Kekek (talk) 10:48, 31 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
We could just write in prose that, "If you're in x city, you should visit the plantations..." --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 13:49, 31 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Actually Ikan Kekek made me reconsider. If we only targeted the highest quality chocolate then that would disregard the way most of the world enjoys chocolate today, hence perhaps we should include Cadburys and Hersheys. It would still be preferable to keep the list limited to those destinations particularly well known for chocolate and destinations less known yet providing high-end chocolate experiences. Andrewssi2 (talk) 19:36, 31 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]


While you're working out what the scope of the article should be, adding anything seems a bit pointless, but I'd be remiss not to say that York should be included as a destination now, lest I forget it by the time this article next comes to my attention, which is a distinct probability.--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 13:57, 31 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]