Talk:French cuisine

Hi all,

I'm thinking that I need to add something in here about the phenomenon that is "Tacos à la Française" if only to avoid unpleasant surprises for travellers who see "Tacos" on the menu and expect the Mexican or US Southwest or even US knock-off varieties.

Do you think it should go under regional dishes? It seems to have reached all of Francophonie at this point, so while it came from Grenoble hardly anybody things of it as being from the Alps.

-- Mark (talk) 14:30, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

You might as well add them if you want, and think travellers will find the info useful :) I've never come across them myself (though have seen burgers à la française, which as far as I know just means the ingredients are sourced within France and it costs you an arm and a leg to buy). Unless you want to start a new 'Fast food' section, I can't see anywhere else you would put them if not under 'Regional dishes'. --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 15:10, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

Here's a reference, so you understand what I'm talking about. I actually find the dish in question kind of offensive, especially after it drove a favourite authentic Mexican taco shop way from Lausanne. https://munchies.vice.com/fr/article/ypangg/french-tacos-are-not-tacos

Also: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tacos_fran%C3%A7ais#cite_note-vice_ftnt-2

Maybe a *warning* section would be appropriate? -- Mark (talk) 15:24, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

I wouldn't turn my snout nose up at one of those! The difference seems roughly equivalent to American pizza vs Italian pizza. Don't go too overboard with the criticism, even if you do hate them. It's difficult to find authentic Mexican food in most parts of Europe I've been to, to the extent that most Europeans (including myself) don't even know what good Mexican food should look like. --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 15:57, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

You might be surprised. As I said we used to have a real taco shop run by two Mexican brothers who happened to be engineering students at EPFL. Also in the summer of 2016 my wife and I spent a week in Berlin and were /delighted/ to find real Mexican food. There are also two real taquerias in Geneva.

Anyhow, I don't have any problem with the snack/meal/thing itself. It's the false advertising which bothers me.

So in the actual article I don't intend to run this thing down, just to explain that it's "Un Tacos" not tacos. ;) -- Mark (talk) 19:52, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

https://en.wikivoyage.org/w/index.php?title=Lausanne&diff=2953935&oldid=2878819 -- Mark (talk) 20:02, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

Allez-y ! One thing, Wikipedia thinks it came from the Lyon conurbation, rather than Grenoble. ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 20:26, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

Nougat

Does anyone know where the most famous places that produce nougat are? I vaguely remember a French former colleague saying it was somewhere in the south of France, and I remember that the nougats that he brought back for us whenever he made trips back home to France were absolutely delicious. The dog2 (talk) 19:27, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

Banner

How about a more colorful banner? --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 23:19, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Banner 0

Banner 1

I prefer the composition of Banner 0, though. Ikan Kekek (talk) 02:49, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

Banner 1. --Comment by Selfie City (talk) (contributions) 11:17, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

Banner 1 is prettier. /Yvwv (talk) 11:27, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

Done. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 00:17, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

Baked goods and desserts, plus the pitiful state of this article in general

I was shocked by the short shrift given to desserts and the total absence of a section on bread. I remedied the first part of that somewhat, but I think we should reorganize the article to have a section on boulangerie items, which are savory as well as sweet and include breads, and composed (i.e. restaurant, brasserie, etc.) desserts. Also, this article is generally totally inadequate to the coverage of what's arguably the most influential cuisine in the world. To even begin to adequately cover it, we also need to discuss the Guide Michelin and what to expect in starred restaurants, and we also need to discuss the café, the brasserie and the restaurant and how they are different. We also need to cover the boucherie, where you can get great sandwiches made with high-quality meat. I'm tempted to support junking this article and referring readers to Wikipedia if we can't adequately cover French cuisine in a way that's particularly useful to the traveler, but frankly, as it stands, this article is really inadequate. Ikan Kekek (talk) 08:28, 18 September 2024 (UTC)