Talk:Fresno

What about traffic congestion problems in fresno? What do you think would be a solution to this problem?206.78.58.65 21:56, 12 December 2006 (EST)Maria Ortiz

I removed upstairs downtown from the food section as they are no longer in business.

Right wing city government

I think it is pretty remarkable that city of half a million has had a Republican mayor for (at least) the last three cycles. If we can find reasons for this it would also bear adding them as said reasons can be interesting to travelers (e.g. Some political quirks of Utah are caused by its Mormon presence, certainly something of relevance to travel). But said addition was reverted. Hobbitschuster (talk) 19:58, 13 September 2018 (UTC)

If it was last three cycles (I'm assuming you mean 12 years), then that's different. I think then that we should say that Fresno is a Conservative/GOP-dominated city. I just don't think a specific election is relevant. --Comment by Selfie City (talk about my contributions) 20:06, 13 September 2018 (UTC)

For the benefit of readers who don't follow US local politics, it would be good to list some of the practical changes that this has resulted in - e.g. is there more or less public transport, spending on parks, hotel taxes... Is the mayor directly elected? AlasdairW (talk) 20:27, 13 September 2018 (UTC)

My understanding is that this part of California is where the Okies went during the Dust Bowl in the 1930s, and it retains a degree of Oklahoman heritage. I'd say that if this is true and palpable, it's worth mentioning, and the city's tilt toward the Republicans could be mentioned in passing as part of the Oklahoman heritage. Ikan Kekek (talk) 20:34, 13 September 2018 (UTC)

(edit conflict) I agree with AlasdairW. But I don't see any point in including "Unusually for a city of this size, Fresno has a Republican mayor, taking office in 2017 after two term Republican Ashley Swearingen" in the text. However, if it said that Fresno is largely GOP dominated and as a result the majority of the budget has been spent on X instead of X, then that is different. It's all about ttcf. --Comment by Selfie City (talk about my contributions) 20:36, 13 September 2018 (UTC)

In response to Ikan Kekek, again I think that is a sensible way to put it. I just think a sentence with election info is not relevant to the traveler unless it has some relation to the traveler. --Comment by Selfie City (talk about my contributions) 20:39, 13 September 2018 (UTC)

I simply don't know who Swearingen's predecessor was. Hence "three cycles". Her eight years and the next guy is right wing, too...

Oh and I just looked up S.'s predecessor this bloke. That's not chance, that's a pattern. Hobbitschuster (talk) 00:05, 14 September 2018 (UTC)

Other large cities in the US with Republican mayors include San Diego, Jacksonville, Fort Worth, El Paso, and Oklahoma City, all of which are larger than Fresno; and Mesa, Omaha, Colorado Springs, Miami, and Virginia Beach, which are close to Fresno's size. While a Republican mayor is less common than a Democratic mayor for such a large city, it's not that remarkable.

If the Republican mayor is mentioned as part of some other piece of information about the city (such as government services or Oklahoman heritage, as suggested above), then maybe it would make sense. Otherwise I don't see why it's worth mentioning. —Granger (talk · contribs) 00:38, 14 September 2018 (UTC)

I think we mention the political leanings of one or several Berlin districts... Hobbitschuster (talk) 00:42, 14 September 2018 (UTC)

Briefly discussing the political leanings of the city overall might be worthwhile, and the bit about the mayor could be part of that. But just saying the party of the mayor doesn't tell the reader very much about the the city's politics overall—when it comes to local and state politics, there are still liberal Republicans and conservative Democrats (or at least centrist ones). For example, Massachusetts currently has a Republican governor and Montana has a Democratic governor. —Granger (talk · contribs) 00:47, 14 September 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for doing this research, Granger. I think we should also turn back to Talk:Cycling in the United States, where we say that most US cities are Left-wing. --Comment by Selfie City (talk about my contributions) 18:48, 14 September 2018 (UTC)

My point isn't to say that all these places are conservative. My point is that even a liberal place can have a Republican mayor or governor. —Granger (talk · contribs) 00:31, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

Yes, thanks for the clarification — I should’ve said so earlier. And yes, I wouldn’t consider Miami right wing even if they have a GOP mayor. --Comment by Selfie City (talk about my contributions) 00:57, 15 September 2018 (UTC)