User talk:Golfodisalerno
Add topicHello, Golfodisalerno! Thank you for contributing to Wikivoyage, but please note that one or more of your recent edits has been reverted as it appeared to be an attempt to use this site to advertise or promote a business or service. Wikivoyage is created by travellers for travellers, and while business owners and employees are welcome to contribute, use of this site for promotional purposes is not allowed.
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- I invite you to try to justify the article at Talk:Salerno Paestum Amalfi. It looks useless to me. State any reason why we shouldn't delete it at the link. Ikan Kekek (talk) 09:44, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
- This directory of itineraries on Wikivoyage lists articles about specific journeys. Some traverse continents and could take months to plan and weeks to properly complete, while others demand no more commitment than an afternoon's stroll around a city. Nothing more to say. Anyway I thank you for the time that you dedicate to my article. Golfodisalerno (talk) 22:43, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
- Nominated for deletion at Wikivoyage:Votes_for_deletion#Salerno_Paestum_Amalfi. Comment there if you like. Pashley (talk) 12:23, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
- This directory of itineraries on Wikivoyage lists articles about specific journeys. Some traverse continents and could take months to plan and weeks to properly complete, while others demand no more commitment than an afternoon's stroll around a city. Nothing more to say. Anyway I thank you for the time that you dedicate to my article. Golfodisalerno (talk) 22:43, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
- No route is specified, so it's not an itinerary. Ikan Kekek (talk) 22:50, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
- Furthermore, would you kindly read and apply the WV:Tone, WV:Avoid long lists and WV:Don't tout guidelines which are not being observed in the creation of your itinerary. Ibaman (talk) 10:25, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
- Wikivoyage:Tone
- ⦁ Be conversational and informal: ok, done.
- ⦁ Lively writing is welcome: ok, done.
- ⦁ Address the reader: ok, done.
- ⦁ Be concise: ok, done.
- ⦁ Careful generalizations are okay: ok, done.
- ⦁ Humor and irreverence are welcome: ok, done.
- ⦁ Don't assume the reader is an idiot: ok, done.
- ⦁ Avoid clichés: ok, done.
- ⦁ Think twice before making a list: ok, done.
- Wikivoyage:Avoid long lists
- ⦁ how to specified a route without listing?
- Wikivoyage:Don't tout
- ⦁ Don't list the same place many times: ok, done.
- ⦁ Avoid first person pronouns: ok, done.
- ⦁ Don't add listings for booking services or general travel planning: ok, done.
- ⦁ Don't add more than one URL for a place, neither on one page nor on different pages: ok, done.
- ⦁ Describe, don't urge: ok, done.
- ⦁ Don’t write in all-caps: ok, done.
- ⦁ Avoid using flowery, vague terms in descriptions, instead describe why it is so great: ok, done.
- ⦁ Avoid superlatives: ok, done.
- ⦁ Don't move your listing to the top: ok, done.
- ⦁ Be concise: ok, done.
- ⦁ Avoid assertions of proximity to nearby attractions: ok, done.
- ⦁ Avoid references to third-party ratings and rankings unless they are truly exceptional: ok, done.
- ⦁ Don't include referral codes in URLs: ok, done. Golfodisalerno (talk) 20:08, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
- Furthermore, would you kindly read and apply the WV:Tone, WV:Avoid long lists and WV:Don't tout guidelines which are not being observed in the creation of your itinerary. Ibaman (talk) 10:25, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
- No route is specified, so it's not an itinerary. Ikan Kekek (talk) 22:50, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
- This directory of itineraries on Wikivoyage lists articles about specific journeys. Some traverse continents and could take months to plan and weeks to properly complete, while others demand no more commitment than an afternoon's stroll around a city. Nothing more to say. Anyway I thank you for the time that you dedicate to my article. Golfodisalerno (talk) 22:43, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
- remarkable, I see some progress can be made, now please acquaint yourself with WV:Goals and non-goals, WV:itinerary article template, WV:Listings, WV:avoid long lists, and report again, thank you. Ibaman (talk) 01:07, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
Hi, Golfodisalerno. I took a scalpel to the article you started, for many of the reasons mentioned above and also in this edit summary. What we really need, for this article to be valuable, is a recognized and recognizable itinerary route. "Arrive in Salerno and do two day trips to Paestum and Amalfi" is not a very useful itinerary, but rather, a summary that probably belongs in Salerno#Go next or a "Nearby" section in the Salerno article, and if there's nothing more to this itinerary in a year, this article will be nominated for deletion again and likely deleted. However, if there are specific walking routes, for example, that you have in mind, it would be valuable if you would add them, so that instead of a long list of attractions, we knew which attractions would be seen in which order.
If you would like some inspiration, the following are star-level itinerary articles: Along the Magnificent Mile, Belgian coast by tram, Historic churches of Buffalo's East Side, Loop Art Tour, Yaowarat and Phahurat Tour. You'll notice that they're all different, but one thing they all have in common is a detailed, clear route. You can also look at guide-level itinerary articles (one step below star) listed in Category:Guide itineraries.
If you add a detailed description of an itinerary through each city and detailed itinerary maps, you can then also include summaries about the three cities, but they shouldn't be in the kind of great detail that belongs in the "Understand" sections of the articles about each of the cities, and please make sure to avoid copying and pasting from other sites.
Let me know if you have any questions, and I'm sorry I nominated the article for deletion, but the reason is that there was so much extraneous stuff in it that I didn't notice that it included the very bare bones of an embryonic itinerary in it. Ikan Kekek (talk) 01:08, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you, I will work on your suggestions. Golfodisalerno (talk) 17:21, 15 December 2023 (UTC)