Talk:Dangerous animals

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Water beasties?[edit]

Pirhana? Are there other species as nasty? Big game fish thrashing about when hauled into a boat can kill. Some species of jellyfish are seriously dangerous. What about other watery hazards?

There are plenty of stories and even films about dolphins & porpoises, but they are wild animals. Are they actually dangerous, and if so, when?

Are these covered in our diving articles? Pashley (talk) 19:02, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

We do have a Jellyfish article, but I don't think the other water dangers are covered anywhere... Texugo (talk) 19:11, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
I have just added Dangerous_animals#Stonefish. Should they be grouped with sharks and jellyfish into a "Marine hazards" scetion? Or even a separate article? My answers would be "yes" and "not yet". Pashley (talk) 03:22, 29 August 2015 (UTC)

Rattlesnake lethality[edit]

Is it really the case that an untreated rattlesnake bite can't kill an adult human? I thought otherwise. Ikan Kekek (talk) 00:07, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

It can, according to w:Rattlesnake#Effect_of_bites_on_humans. Moreover, the other newly created Pests page has more info on snakes. We need to decide whether we would rather concentrate the info there or here and put a pointer from the one to the other. Texugo (talk) 00:32, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
It looks to me like a good decision was made. I don't think snakes are usually considered pests, but rather, poisonous snakes are considered threats. Pests tend to be somewhat smaller or/and less lethal animals (like, maybe farmers consider deer pests, since they eat crops, but people in urban areas tend to think of smaller vermin, with rats usually being the biggest). Ikan Kekek (talk) 22:19, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

Meanwhile in Canada[edit]

A truck loaded with fireworks hits a moose near Wawa. Lots of explosions! Pashley (talk) 16:07, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

And a wolf chasing a motorcycle near Banff. Pashley (talk) 16:21, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
Had to smile at this one, yes it happens. Had a coyote run along side of my car for a mile or so on a gravel track in Alberta. --Traveler100 (talk) 17:17, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Bears[edit]

I think there is so much material on bears that it should be moved to an article of its own. The advice from wilderness backpacking should also be merged.

But I wonder, is this global advice, or just North America? There are a thousand bears in Finland (some in my nearby hiking terrains), but here I have never heard about watching videos or having bear safe containers. It seems the bear trouble across the pond is quite outstanding (not counting polar bears). No harm following the advice also here, but is it really important in "most areas populated with bears"?

--LPfi (talk) 18:36, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

At least in central Romania bears allegedly run loose near major cities... Ypsilon (talk) 18:53, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
Most of this material on bears is in an article of its own on WP and was copied here; see comment at top of this page. There are several ways to deal with the duplication:
  1. My inclination would be to cut the bear section here to about two short paragraphs and link to WP for more. That would violate our external links policy; I consider this a valid exception but that is clearly debatable.
  2. Creating a "bear danger" article here would let us link to the WP article without violating policy. I see no other benefit.
  3. As I see it, keeping a large chunk of essentially the same text here and at WP is problematic. They are already somewhat different and may be moreso in time, especially if we decide European bears need different text. This may waste effort and either site may miss good contributions from the other.
My choice would be #1. What do others think? Pashley (talk) 20:28, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
I am not at all convinced that anything needs to be done at all. I don't at all consider it to have too much information to be hosted here on this page - the section is not that big, and on my screen at least, it all fits on the screen at once, with a little to spare. I think the information should stay here, as is, with room to merge any little non-duplicated info from wildeness backpacking, if any. If we absolutely did have to do something though, I would definitely prefer to give it its own article rather than cut and refer people to wikipedia. We shouldn't be referring people to wikipedia for things that are indeed travel related and within our scope. Texugo (talk) 22:23, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
I also think the material should be at Wikivoyage. Such advice is not in scope for Wikipedia and may be deleted or rewritten at any time. As long as this page has so little information on other animals the bear section can stay, but I think having comparable information on snakes, wolves and sharks will already make the page clumsy (the bear info is two pages with my current browser window width). --LPfi (talk) 09:05, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Wrong name?[edit]

I think the article name here is wrong. It is not just about "Aggressive animals", but something more like "Dangerous animals".

Lots of animals are dangerous even when they are not aggressive. A cud-chewing buffalo is not aggressive, nor is a sleeping snake. Provoke them, though — get too close to either or step on the snake — and you have a real problem. Pashley (talk) 20:37, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

True. Aggressiveness is not the point. Also animals in the pest article can be dangerous, but perhaps the reference in the lead is enough. --LPfi (talk) 09:09, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
I did the move and changed some things to point to the new name: all redirects, the listing at travel topics and a few others. I did not muck with the categories or breadcrumbs. Pashley (talk) 13:02, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

A list[edit]

19 animals that kill the most humans Pashley (talk) 01:22, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Wolves[edit]

I think I read from serious sources (but have forgotten where), that being aggressive is the best option if wolves come too near. The section now has no such advice, neither any warning about running away (only long term advice for societies near wolves). Does somebody have wolf advice handy? --LPfi (talk) 19:52, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

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