Talk:Las Vegas

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The Quad photo

Looks like a fairly anonymous hotel building to me. Is it notable as a building, or should the photo be removed as promotional of the hotel? Ikan Kekek (talk) 22:18, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Doesn't seem like there's anything notable about it. I'll go ahead and remove the photo. PerryPlanet (talk) 22:20, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

Sleep listings

Alright, I've been doing a lot of clean-up on this page, and I'm wondering how we should handle the Sleep listings, which currently are sorted roughly by where they are in town (Strip, off-Strip, Downtown, further out). Normally, this would be considered a violation of our manual of style; we usually sort Sleep listings by price (budget, mid-range, splurge). But I'm wondering if it makes sense to make an exception for Vegas and keep the current system. In most places, price would probably be the most defining factor for where you stay, but in the case of Vegas, one could make the argument that proximity to the Strip is the biggest factor (and in a real sense, proximity to the Strip is itself a huge indicator of price).

What do others think? Would someone more familiar with Vegas like to weigh in on this? PerryPlanet (talk) 21:09, 1 June 2014 (UTC)

(Opinion of an European who's been two times to Las Vegas, probably we have some US and Canadian Wikivoyagers who know more) I would vote for keeping the hotels section as it is. Or if we decide to divide them into our standard price categories, we should definitely have sub-headings inside them indicating whether the hotels are on the Strip or not. The Strip is where "everything" is and if you are staying at some cheaper hotel/motel further away, you will spend a lot of time getting there and back. Distances are quite impressive in Vegas and often buses (once every 30 minutes for other buses than the Deuce and the Express), taxis (expensive in the long run) and cars (probably parking is not very easy) move slowly due to traffic congestion. ϒpsilon (talk) 05:08, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

Agree. Since there are no districts for this article, it's very useful to divide sections by location. Since there are a lot of listings, I would divide it in to two levels: location and price. Order could be either way (divide by price then location, or divide by location then price), but I'm inclined to think having location as the first division would be more useful, since many people probably know already whether they want to be on the Strip or not. --Bigpeteb (talk) 21:53, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

Are escape rooms really relevant?

I noticed 4 detailed listing for Escape rooms have been added. This article is not exactly lacking in things to do in Las Vegas, and the policy Wikivoyage:Avoid_long_lists states that Wikivoyage is not a yellow pages of everything. I'd suggest these are not critical listings for most travelers.

Should we keep? Andrewssi2 (talk) 08:05, 22 July 2017 (UTC)

Districts?

We have a lot of listings in the article, so as nobody has suggested this before, I do it now: should we subdivide Las Vegas into districts? It could be done like this:

• 1. West of I-15
• 2. Eastern Las Vegas (east of Paradise Road?)

And in the middle, running north-south we have the Strip, or more formally Las Vegas Boulevard plus a block or two east and west. This would be divided into:

• 3. Southern Strip (everything south of Flamingo Road)
• 4. Central Strip (from Flamingo road to Sahara Avenue)
• 5. Northern Strip and Downtown (from Sahara Avenue to the freeway 515 or all the way to Owens Avenue which according to Google Maps is the border between Las Vegas and North Las Vegas)
• 6. North Las Vegas could maybe be included in the hierarchy

What do you think? --ϒpsilon (talk) 04:54, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

Would it make sense to keep the Strip together in one article, since many visitors go there on its own?

• 1. West of I-15
• 2. Eastern Las Vegas
• 3. The Strip
• 4. Downtown
• 5. North Las Vegas

Ground Zero (talk) 05:24, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

I figured it would make sense to split the Strip into parts because it has so many POIs. --ϒpsilon (talk) 05:33, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

I think splitting the Strip into three pieces like that would be confusing and make the article difficult to use. Ground Zero's suggestion seems better, but I wonder if it would be simpler to combine the north, east, and west parts into a single "Outskirts" district, or just to keep everything in one article. I've only been to Las Vegas twice, though, so others may know better. But I feel strongly that we shouldn't have separate articles for the Strip north and south of Flamingo Road. —Granger (talk · contribs) 06:35, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

Dividing the article into just "on Strip" and "off Strip" districts wouldn't do much more than breaking the article, as about 3 out of 4 POIs (or even more?) are on the Strip. Better to keep everything in the one article then. ϒpsilon (talk) 07:10, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

I did quick counts, which may not be perfect. The See listings, there are 12 on Strip, 9 Downtown, and 9 elsewhere. In the Do listings, there are 46 on Strip, 25 Downtown and elsewhere, not including "Events", which don't have locations identified. Also, the main city article would hold all of the Get in, Get around, Cope, Stay Safe, Go next info, while the district articles would take the many, many See, Do, Buy, Eat, Drink, Sleep listings, so splitting either as I've suggested or as Granger has would address the issue of this being a long and unwieldy article in a useful way. Ground Zero (talk) 14:45, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

Actually, the 77 Sleep listings was what got me thinking about districtifying LV.

Anyways, let's agree then to keep the whole Strip in one article even if it has a ton POIs and is surprisingly long. Overall Las Vegas was IMO very spread out (I've visited Las Vegas twice) especially away from the Strip, and this is why I think one single "Outskirts" article wouldn't be enough. ϒpsilon (talk) 17:57, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

Continuing on this discussion, Henderson sits right next to Las Vegas, and the border between them zig-zags (see Mapnik layer) and isn't otherwise noticable unless you have a map (see Google streetview for instance). So I think Henderson could be included in the East article, and we could call the district "East and Henderson". I would also include the south of the city (south of Mandalay Bay and the Welcome to Las Vegas sign) in this article. This would give us the following: 1. Strip, 2. West of I-15, 3. Downtown, 4. North Las Vegas, 5. East and Henderson. ϒpsilon (talk) 04:18, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

Here's how the districts would look like: User:Ypsilon#Vegas_districts. @Ground Zero, Mx. Granger, PerryPlanet, Bigpeteb:. --ϒpsilon (talk) 09:44, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

Ypsilon, thanks for all of that work. These articles look great. The Strip article is long, but I think it makes sense to keep it together as that's how the visitor will experience it. Great job. Ground Zero (talk) 12:43, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

The ping didn't work for me for some reason, so re-pinging @PerryPlanet, Bigpeteb:. These districts look good to me. (Though I'll say again that I've only been to Las Vegas twice and others may know better than I do.) —Granger (talk · contribs) 13:24, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

I've been to Las Vegas twice as well, for a total of about two weeks, and tried to get around and see as much as possible (to me, Las Vegas is a "little" more just a couple hour's drive or flight away, so I didn't really feel like sitting around in one hotel :)). I'm by no means a Las Vegas expert though (especially as the attractions keep changing continuously).

@VegasScorpion: is also apparently familiar with Vegas to some degree (as per edit history and user name) — do you have any opinion about the districts? --ϒpsilon (talk) 15:15, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

I'll wait until the weekend and, unless there are any objections, publish the districts and district map. --ϒpsilon (talk) 12:16, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

Vegas is now districtified. ϒpsilon (talk) 19:06, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

Raiders

It looks like this is the proper page for the information to land once the move of the Raiders is complete. Though, I think it's actually not happening until the 2020 season. Just leaving a heads-up, hopelessly ahead of time. L. Challenger (talk) 11:02, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

Map

Imho the dynamic map should be shaded with districts. Whether or not the Montreal line should be shown is another issue but I lean towards yes. Hobbitschuster (talk) 07:04, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

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This will be deleted in short order, due to lack of permission. Any thoughts? Ikan Kekek (talk) 23:33, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

I don't think it would meet our Exemption Doctrine Policy to keep locally. Point 4 says "Photographs of copyrighted artwork (such as maps) should not be uploaded if free images or text can serve the same purpose." —Granger (talk · contribs) 10:36, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

I agree. Straight-up copyright violation, IMO. Let's remove it tomorrow if no-one has a convincing argument for why there's a justification for ignoring the copyright notice at the bottom of this pageIkan Kekek (talk) 10:41, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

New airport name

I went through this article and changed the airport name from McCarran to Harry Reid, but I realized when I was about to move the McCarran International Airport article that I shouldn't do that unilaterally, so I may have jumped the gun a little here. Please participate in a discussion at Talk:McCarran International Airport. Ikan Kekek (talk) 23:32, 7 January 2022 (UTC)