Talk:United States without a car

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Bad places to not own a car[edit]

First of all I guess not owning a car is even worse in rural or suburban areas than in say (downtown) Atlanta or (downtown) LA. That being said, both cities are among the worst offenders when it comes to sprawl and car oriented development. I still vividly recall an outline of Atlanta overlaid with one of Barcelona (which was barely visible against the huge area of Atlanta) with the information that both places have similar numbers of inhabitants. The conclusion how many people in either city live closer than x to the next transit stop was rather self-evident. That being said, I guess the bad places are slowly but surely moving in the right direction.... - Well LA is at least - and we should be careful not to reproduce stereotypes once they are no longer true. That being said, Atlanta recently managed to have lower ridership on its metro compared to the previous year in a year of rising gas prices and exploding transit growth. Somewhere some decisions regarding public transit in Atlanta went horribly wrong. Hobbitschuster (talk) 20:20, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

Should we include hitchhiking[edit]

While it is technically a mode to get around without your own car, it is still a method ultimately getting around by car (if we want to be technical about it). Ultimately every point in the US that is accessible by car is also accessible by hitchhiking. Which would ultimately make this article an article on Hitchhiking in the USA with a bit of buses and Amtrak tacked on awkwardly... Or am I seeing this wrong? Hobbitschuster (talk) 14:36, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

I rewrote the sentence. ϒpsilon (talk) 14:57, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
Thanks. Though country specific guides on hitchhiking might have their place on WV.... With the US (or another major, well covered country) probably making for a good test case as to whether such an article would be viable... Hobbitschuster (talk) 15:14, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
Yes, given that someone has knowledge to write about the subject. ϒpsilon (talk) 15:19, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

Do Amtrak and/or intercity bus operators carry bikes?[edit]

Is there any one consistent policy regarding the possibility to take your own bike with you on a train or bus? Given that we currently spell out the difficulties of biking from place to place, it may be good to at least mention whether the alternative of having your bike carried for you is indeed feasible. Hobbitschuster (talk) 20:55, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

Yes, you can take your bike on the train. Amtrak says they "may be subject to additional packing requirements and service fees", but in practice, I doubt there is ever a problem with just taking it onto the train. I think the same is true of buses, which tend to have plenty of stowage, except that if you're concerned about your bike being crushed in the storage area, you might want to pack it well in a big box or something. Ikan Kekek (talk) 21:23, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
Well I think we should mention this in the article, as it is far from universal. In Germany for example, bus operators require advance notice and ICE trains don't carry them at all - though the new trains DB will acquire in the next decade or so explicitly call for bike storage Hobbitschuster (talk) 10:52, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

Canada/Australia without a car[edit]

While most high-income countries in Europe and Asia would be easy to cross by public transport, Canada without a car could be more of a challenge. Maybe Australia without a car as well? /Yvwv (talk) 11:20, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

I haven't been to Australia, but I know they do have a transcontinental railway. However, there are vast areas of the country that you can't get to by train. Ikan Kekek (talk) 11:24, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
I think it was I who posted this in our requested articles with a sentence along the lines of "if this proves successful, we can attempt a similar article for other places" - so by all means, please go ahead. I will probably not be able to contribute much of substance, though. Hobbitschuster (talk) 11:33, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

To guide and possible FTT?[edit]

What does the article need for guide status in your opinion? Markers and a dynamic map, maybe? ϒpsilon (talk) 15:11, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

It still lacks a coherent narrative to a degree... Hobbitschuster (talk) 16:17, 29 November 2017 (UTC)