Wikivoyage talk:Informative articles
In use already?[edit]
I'm sorry to have missed the latest discussion on this, but is there consent on starting to use it? It is included on Wikivoyage:Park article status, which means people might use it without realising it being experimental. I see the status is used on 16 parks, 2 topic pages, over 140 dive guides and over 600 districts already. {{Experimental}} says it "should not be added to more than one low-visibility article (as an example of usage)." –LPfi (talk) 08:12, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
- Where are the suggested district and dive guide article criteria? And where is the discussion for articles other than about parks? –LPfi (talk) 08:24, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
- 600 districts? The only informative articles are on Category:Informative articles and per Category:Informative districts, there's only 16. There's six people in favour of this, and it has been proposed twice and it got rolled out to prevent the discussion being fading out. I'm confused on where you're getting your numbers on dive guides and districts though. I don't usually touch dive guides and the only districts that have this status are a bunch of Sydney and Vancouver districts (plus a few others too). SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 08:44, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
I don't remember where I got my figures. Anyway, discussion needs to continue if the status is to be taken into official use.
For parks, on which there was discussion (somewhere) the criteria as of now are:
| Status | Name | Description |
|---|---|---|
| 3 | Usable | Has at least a couple of attractions with directions, information on fees and permits and accommodation, as well as a Get in section describing all of the typical ways to get there. |
| 4 | Informative | Has most attractions with directions, information on fees and permits and accommodation, as well as a Get in section describing all of the typical ways to get there. If there are no accommodation or dining options, a pointer should be placed to indicate where the nearest accommodation or dining options can be found. |
| 5 | Guide | Gives you different choices for which parts of the park to visit, and information on multiple attractions and things to do. Listings and layout closely match the manual of style. There are clear explanations of multiple ways to get in, multiple accommodation listings (if applicable), clear information on getting around, and some suggestions for where to go next, with one-liner descriptions. Should have a custom page-banner. |
- Get in: all the typical ways → all the typical ways → multiple ways
- See and Do: a couple → most → multiple
- Eat: nothing required → a pointer to alternatives if there are no dining options → nothing required
- Sleep: information → information, if no options, then a link → nothing
I cannot see these as well thought-out. I assume that "information on accommodation" already includes giving pointers to alternatives if you cannot sleep in the park, so the addition is just confusing, not a stricter requirement.
Ah! The previous discussion was at Wikivoyage talk:Park article status#Criterion for informative articles, where these comments were already included, a bit expanded. I think I'll make a try at a new version at User:LPfi/Park status and start a new section at Wikivoyage talk:Park article status when I get stuck or feel I have something usable to present.