Talk:Iberia

New page banner?

Banner currently used for Extremadura

While Toledo is an important and beautiful city, the current page banner does not do justice to Iberia. We should use a more panoramic view, or find something iconic to the peninsula. The current banner for Extremadura could be something to look for. /Yvwv (talk) 12:45, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

Mérida

The Roman bridge in Mérida could also be a candidate; while in Spain, it alludes to Portuguese history as well. /Yvwv (talk) 12:47, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

Catalonia

Shouldn't Catalonia be listed here, since it is a self-declared country? Selfie City (talk) 02:09, 1 January 2018 (UTC)

When Catalonia's immigration rules or other important laws governing travel into, out of or around Catalonia change from those of Spain, then we treat it as a separate country. That's what matters here on Wikivoyage, not how a country (or in this case the government and a percentage of the population of that country) sees itself, and not whether that country is recognised as such by other countries. In short, the traveller comes first. --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 02:18, 1 January 2018 (UTC)

Where are Tapas from?

This article currently claims Tapas to be Catalonia. Which. They. Are. Not. According to everything I have heard. So can we please not claim that? Hobbitschuster (talk) 17:48, 22 February 2018 (UTC)

To my understanding tapas originally come from Andalusia, though nowadays tapas includes dishes from all over Spain (likely including Catalonian cuisine). ϒpsilon (talk) 17:59, 22 February 2018 (UTC)

I also heard they are originally from Andalusia and judging by the dreck they sell as Tapas in the tourist trap in Catalonia I've been to, they're still not entirely arrived in Catalonia... Hobbitschuster (talk) 18:01, 22 February 2018 (UTC)

• For the record, when I visited Madrid, I heard the story that the whole shabang originates from a law by Philip II (early 17th century, that is) stating that every person buying a drink in a tavern must receive a free snack along. That could be apocryphal, but makes some sense. Ibaman (talk) 18:14, 22 February 2018 (UTC)

France

France is literally one of the five countries which are part of the Iberian Peninsula also if France is only party part of it —The preceding comment was added by Salisosa (talk • contribs)

Although in some geological sense France might be considered partially a part of the Iberian Peninsula, it is not thought of as such by most people. Including it in this travel (not scientific) article will likely just confuse our readers. Please see Wikivoyage:The traveller comes first.

By the way, please sign your talk page posts with ~~~~ --Nelson Ricardo (talk) 22:06, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

Whaat do you mean the Iberian Peninsula is not a Union its a Geographical Region, and the small part of the French territory is on the western side of the Pyrenees (the Pyrenee-Range is the boarder line which defines what is part of the Iberian Peninsula and what's not). It got included in nearly all the Wikipedia Sites of the Iberian Peninsula. Then if you would say that they are culturally not Iberian then your kinda wrong the French Cerdagne is actually part of the French territory known as Northern Catalonia the people there are seen as ethnic catalans (Look at wikipedia article: Catalans) even if only around 125'000 - 200'000 catalans of the 470'000 catalans living there can speak the catalan language nearly the whole population (including the catalans who only speak French, the French of Northern Catalonia is actually a bit different from normal French they all have a strong catalan accent and even have catalan words mixed into their French language) identifies as catalan they still have the same traditions as the southern catalans (catalans of Spain).

I think its just fair to include France, there territory on the peninsula is even bigger than the whole principality of Andorra.

The Iberian Peninsula is not a union where people have to recognize you, in the official studies about the Iberian Peninsula (and its nations, flora, fauna ethnicities and so on) which were released by a high university in Bilbao (southern/spanish Basque Country) France was included as a state which takes part of the Iberian Peninsula. —The preceding comment was added by Salisosa (talk • contribs)

So? "A small part of France is geographically part of Iberia, but we don't cover it here" could be added at the end of the "Countries" section, but there's no point to that in a travel guide. And that has nothing to do with the ethnic composition of France, which is important to you, and everything to do with any part of France being in Iberia being so little-known that a nearly life-long geography buff like me had never heard of it before - remember, the prime directive of this site is the traveller comes first, not the nationalist, advocate for their ethnicity or pedant.

Finally, please sign your posts on talk pages by typing 4 tildes in a row. I'm sure I don't have to tell you what those are. :-) Ikan Kekek (talk) 22:42, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

Cities

I note there are ten cities in the list, while we keep to the 7±2 in this kind of articles. Which one should be removed? I note that there are 6 cities of Spain, 4 of Portugal and 0 of Andorra. The one-liners should also be improved (Anjo-sozinho fixed a few). –LPfi (talk) 11:09, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

Unless I'm misreading something, aren't there only 9 cities on the list? --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 11:14, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

That is: Barcelona, Bilbao, Braga, Lisboa, Madrid, Porto, Seville, Valencia and Zaragoza. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 11:20, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

I see 9 cities and 8 other destinations. There's room for 1 more other destination if any is worth listing. Ikan Kekek (talk) 11:22, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

Maybe an Andorran ski resort for completeness? SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 11:32, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

That would be a way to include Andorra, so why not, if there's one that's considered particularly good? Ikan Kekek (talk) 19:00, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

Oops, don't know how I counted. –LPfi (talk) 11:41, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

Don't worry – it happens to the worst of us :-). --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 11:43, 20 February 2024 (UTC)