Talk:Flying on a budget

Should we link to our low cost airlines articles?

Considering that we will probably merge/delete them in the foreseeable future, if I am not mistaken? Hobbitschuster (talk) 13:30, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Unless/until they are deleted, we should certainly link to them. If the decision is to delete, then the links should be removed in the usual way as part of the deletion process.

In my opinion, most or all of them should be kept since each market is quite different. Anyone planning a trip around Europe needs to hear about Ryan Air, but not about Air Asia. Pashley (talk) 13:41, 24 December 2015 (UTC)

Well if that's the case, why did none of us update those articles recently? This article on the other hand does see regular updates. Even the external links are still not formulated the right way... Hobbitschuster (talk) 16:05, 24 December 2015 (UTC)

Why don't we discuss this at the VfD though? If the articles are inappropriate (which I believe they are), they should be VfD'd. If we deem them OK, they should be linked to. PrinceGloria (talk) 09:48, 25 December 2015 (UTC)

Booking cheap plane tickets

Swept in from the pub

I plan to start an article on strategies to book cheaper airfare (e.g. check multiple search engines, use student fare if you're a student, fly to a smaller airport, etc.) as someone recently asked on tourist office. Would it be within the scope of the project? OhanaUnited^{Talk page} 04:24, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

It is within scope and it already exists as air travel on a budget Hobbitschuster (talk) 04:59, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

ERRORMISTAKE

there aren't any flights from Los Angeles to Wellington, and therefore no LAX-WLG-SYD route. —The preceding comment was added by 131.188.6.200 (talk • contribs)

131.188.6.200, if you see a mistake in any Wikivoyage article, just edit the text accordingly and type the reason for the edit in the "Summary" box below your edit screen. Thanks in advance for correcting this mistake. Ikan Kekek (talk) 17:21, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

"Seat pitch"

Re: this edit: What is "seat pitch"? I can guess from context, but I've never heard of the term before, and I don't think we want to be using highly technical terms that require a definition. So 2600:6c4a:4c7f:f179:bc86:608d:b897:8d4d, could you please explain what the problem is with "legroom" that requires its replacement by an abstruse term? Ikan Kekek (talk) 03:01, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

Guide and FTT?

Here we have another quite extensive travel topic article, maybe it could be promoted to guide status already? And then nominate it for Featured Travel Topic (though for that a few more photos would be more than welcome)? --Ypsilon (talk) 18:47, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

Flying on a budget

Swept in from the pub

Can y'all take a look at that article? I have tried to fix some of the typos, but I fear some of the wordings might still be a bit clumsy... Hobbitschuster (talk) 20:16, 3 August 2019 (UTC)

I found a typo, "Finally Finally," and fixed that. Thanks for pointing your edits out like this; it's good, as it hopefully creates more of a sense of community. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 20:54, 3 August 2019 (UTC)

I fear the double "finally" came about due to me asking in my edit at the slightly wrong position. Now there is a sentence that starts with a lowercase letter Hobbitschuster (talk) 11:04, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

Golden age?

The article refers to "what is often retroactively called "the golden age"" & I have no idea what that means. It goes on to say "Tickets often cost more than a month's salary on short routes and more than a year's salary on trans-oceanic routes." which also confuses me; I first flew in the 1970s & my two-way transatlantic flight was about a month's income.

This needs to be either clarified or removed. Pashley (talk) 21:40, 3 August 2019 (UTC)

Not to get too personal, but were you at the time making more money than average? And was this during the days that fares were basically set by regulation and airlines competed on who had the better food and the prettier flight attendants? Hobbitschuster (talk) 22:45, 3 August 2019 (UTC)

Well, in 1975, my parents bought very cheap round-the-world tickets from a Thai man in New York whose brother ran a travel agency in a tall office building in Bangkok. These tickets were for both of my parents and me (3 tickets) and entitled us to numerous optional stops, only some of which (L.A. for my father and me only, Tokyo, Seoul, Bangkok, Singapore, Delhi, Lod Airport, Athens, Madrid) we took. They also enabled us to travel to Kuala Lumpur via the Pacific in 1975 and back via the western route through India, the Middle East, Europe and the Atlantic in 1977. Most of the travel was via cut-rate airlines like the crappy Korean Airlines of those days, a far cry from what it became, and I also recall a flight from Singapore to Delhi on Aeroflot that was actually cheaper than we had to pay and might not have been covered by that super-ticket. We were never sure just how legit those tickets were, but we never had trouble converting them into individual tickets at no extra cost at every stop, and of course this was pre-computerization, when you had to have your paper tickets or you were screwed but also when there was no easy way for airlines to determine that a legit-looking air ticket was not valid. I really can't be relied upon to remember how much those sort of super-tickets cost in current dollars ($900 apiece?), but I think that tickets were more expensive for ordinary people by far in the 60s than the 70s. Ikan Kekek (talk) 00:46, 4 August 2019 (UTC)

My income at the time (1974) was unremarkable. Tickets were a few hundred $ each way. I think most fares were still controlled by IATA, especially the flag carriers. Pashley (talk) 01:36, 4 August 2019 (UTC)

Pashley: another data point. I started travelling somewhat later than you. My first overseas flight was in 1988 after university on Nationair from Hamilton Airport to Gatwick for C$448 return. After adjusting for inflation, this would be C$858 in 2019 dollars. Of course, I wouldn't be able to fly Nationair now, and no-one is flying to Europe (or event Brexitland) from Hamilton, but I could get a flight on Air Transat leaving in September and returning in May from Toronto Pearson to Gatwick for C$686. Ground Zero (talk) 02:08, 4 August 2019 (UTC)

Expert strategies

I think the section on expert strategies needs to be rewritten. For me, it is largely incomprehensible. The involved risks should be stated up front, to discourage non-experts like me from gambling on these, instead of just alienating me with jargon.

I note that "fuel surcharge" is not explained in our flying articles (at least I didn't find it with a search). I assume it is a term common and important enough to be explained.

The main problem with the section is that it hasn't been proofread to ensure it is coherent. If people know the term "fuel dumping", they don't need the advice on it here. If they don't know it, they just get that there is some trick involving fuel surcharges and connecting flights, but what those have to do with each other remains unclear.

–LPfi (talk) 11:45, 11 June 2022 (UTC)