Talk:Mobile phones

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Country information[edit]

Mobile telephones#Information by Country is a mess of poorly-organised and often redundant information which overlaps the individual country articles, particularly in North America with United States of America#Mobile phones, United States of America#Buying a mobile phone and Canada#Mobiles. See Talk:United States of America#Buying a mobile phone. K7L (talk) 18:30, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

Prepaid operators[edit]

I think the table about operators offering prepaid or international SIMs will be a monster if covering even a dozen of the most visited countries. I also doubt it be maintained for all countries covered. I have no solution to the problem, but we should think carefully what the scope of such a table should be. --LPfi (talk) 06:25, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

True. I might have been the one who tagged this as {{merge}} when it was a separate stub of an article, and maybe this should have been sent to VfD instead as the whole thing is skewed to one country too badly to be useful. :( K7L (talk) 14:23, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

Phone numbers[edit]

There seems to be no section about phone numbers. The issue can be somewhat confusing, as numbers are often found in domestic form, and many enter phone numbers in domestic form when not travelling. Some discussion would be helpful.

Under what circumstances is a number without international prefix (+code) treated as referencing that number in the home country of the SIM, and when as one in the local operator's country? Many numbers are unreachable from abroad, are they reachable from roaming phones?

The issue popped up for Norwegian emergency numbers. 112 is treated as a special case by the phone and by the network (at least GSM and successors), but what about 113 & al, and service numbers such as 08505? And what about 911, 999, 111 & co if recognized by the phone but possibly in conflicting use locally?

--LPfi (talk) 08:45, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

Costs for caller[edit]

I have understood that the caller always pays the rate he or she would pay if the target phone were in the home net (defined according to SIM and called number). Any higher costs would be surprises for those not knowing about the travel, and the operators will hardly give any reductions without special arrangements.

However, in Roaming we say "Moreover, those who send you an SMS using a carrier back home will be charged at local rates." as if the same were not the case for calls. I suppose the sentence should be removed, but want to be sure.

--LPfi (talk) 09:36, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

Alternative banner for this article?[edit]

Banner currently used in this article
Suggested new alternative banner

I created a new alternative banner for this article (I initially created it first and foremost so that it would be used at the top of the parallel article in the Hebrew edition of Wikivoyage, yet I later decided to also suggest that the English Wikivoyage community would consider using it here as well). So, which banner do you prefer having at the top of this article? ויקיג'אנקי (talk) 08:28, 13 September 2018 (UTC)

I like the composition of the current banner, but the phone in it is so old, so I think we should go with your suggested replacement, even though the photo is kind of drab. Ikan Kekek (talk) 08:49, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
Alternative banner. --Comment by Selfie City (talk about my contributions) 14:22, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
I like the alternative much better. —Granger (talk · contribs) 14:40, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
It seems like everyone wants to see the new banner, so I will make the change for this one. We can always change it back if someone comes along and disagrees with the change. --Comment by Selfie City (talk about my contributions) 17:34, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
Looks good! --Comment by Selfie City (talk about my contributions) 17:35, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
I agree, looks good and the tech featured is more current. DethDestroyerOfWords (talk) 13:52, 14 September 2018 (UTC)

To guide?[edit]

Another quite extensive article; what would you say is missing before it can be upgraded to guide? -- ϒψιλον (talk) 17:25, 1 April 2019 (UTC)

It needs a thorough review. I notice the first section after the intro ("Mobile phone basics") talks extensively about the EU, with only some remarks about the rest of the world. The section on technologies in "Bring your phone" is quite nerdy, with name dropping of sometimes unclear benefit. I think it could be written to be quite a bit clearer. Roaming is mentioned three times before the section "Roaming", where most of that information has to be repeated. Etc. I.e. some moving stuff around is needed.
One thing I notice is absent, is a discussion about what kind of phone to bring or buy, except the discussion on radio standards and frequencies. Should you bring a smartphone or buy a sturdy and cheap old model? If you look forward to install local apps, are those available for all phones or is some OS a safer bet than others? I suppose there are other choices, which may be relevant when travelling but less so at home, and thus easily forgotten. (And should you install some apps already at home? – at least navigation apps with large maps are probably in that category.)
The Regions section has more than a screenful about North America (apparently Canada and USA, with "the Caribbean" mentioned in parenthesis), while Europe has a paragraph each on three countries, Asia mentions six and Africa has three lines about Egypt. Some attempt should be done to research the missing countries.
--LPfi (talk) 18:57, 1 April 2019 (UTC)

Mandatory ID checking[edit]

The article says that prepaid SIM cards "used to be cheap (€10 or less with credit included) and widely available in the EU until 2016, when legislation banned anonymous pre-paid SIM cards."

A month ago I bought a prepaid SIM in Finland for €5, containing €6 worth of calls and data (valid 6 month without topping, no weirdness, 7c/min, which I regard normal, although most people over here have €20/month unlimited bundles). Similar SIMs are offered all around. I did not tell my name nor show an ID.

Was the telco shop breaking rules? Is Finland an outlier?

--LPfi (talk) 17:51, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

Saunalahti at least doesn't seem to ask for ID "to take the service in use". --Ypsilon (talk) 18:09, 5 April 2020 (UTC)