Talk:Western Australia
Snakes/spiders
[edit]Should information about snakes/spiders be repeated in the Western Australia article, or should there be a link to the appropriate section of the Australia article in the Stay safe section? (WT-en) Jamboo 09:00, 22 March 2008 (EDT)
Proposing a regions rename
[edit]Im planing on doing some work the WA page but first I want to get the regions in order. What exists bugs me though, so I have a few questions before I start changing things.
- The Heartlands region. Isn't this usually called the Wheatbelt?. Every map I look at agrees with me. Id like to propose a name change. The page has almost no info yet so it wouldnt disturb too much.
- Should Rottnest_Island be its own region or part of the Perth_(region)?
Anyway, just some thoughts. Any objections?
- Totally with you on the Wheatbelt. I identified with that name as soon as I read it. Rottnest should be part of the Perth (region) I think. --(WT-en) Burmesedays 01:17, 9 April 2010 (EDT)
- I don't think the smaller regions in the South West add much. I think the Margaret River could be a single article, and having it as a region and a town is messy. Same goes for Perth, and Albany. Really ugly. Especially with the amount of content there is there now. I'd be in favour of just having a South West Region, incorporating all those towns. I'd put Rotto in there too. The Wheatbelt is a well-defined, well known region. When you are given a region like that, jump on it, I say. --(WT-en) inas 01:23, 9 April 2010 (EDT)
- Agreed on the Southwest also... it is over-refined at the moment. If someone Cardboardbird?) can get a definitive list of proposed regions up on this talk page, then it could be a quick re-organisation I think. I would be happy to do the map. --(WT-en) Burmesedays 01:30, 9 April 2010 (EDT)
- This is what I have come up with, including the major travel spots
- Perth (Region) - Perth, Northbridge, Freo, Rottnest Island.
- Kimberley - Broome, Kununurra, Warmun(Bungle Bungle NP), Wyndham and Fitzroy Crossing
- Pilbara - Port Hedland, Karratha, Dampier, Tom Price, Newman, Marble Bar
- Gascoyne - Monkey Mia, Carnarvon, Coral Bay, Exmouth(Ningaloo Reef), Shark Bay, Mt Augustus
- Midwest - Geraldton, Dongara, Kalbarri, Meekatharra
- Wheatbelt - Toodyay, York, Gingin, Lancelin, Cervantes(The Pinnacles), Hyden(Wave rock)
- Peel - Mandurah, Serpentine, Waroona, Dwellingup(Lane Poole Reserve/Nanga Brook), Preston beach, Pinjarrah.
- South West - Bunbury, Harvey, Busselton, Margaret River, Augusta, Manjimup, Walpole
- Great Southern - Albany, Denmark,
- Goldfields-Esperance - Kalgoorlie-Boulder, Coolgardie, Esperance
- This is what I have come up with, including the major travel spots
- I could easily see South west, Great Southern and Peel being combined into a single South West region, to make 8 regions total. Even the Gascoyne and Midwest, could combine if need be. That area always seems connected in my travel memory. That would make 7 regions. - (WT-en) Cardboardbird 09:34, 12 April 2010 (EDT)
- Guess what I am going to ask :)? Could you please mark out that scheme on a suitable free map source... this one is good: . I think I understand your proposal and it seems eminently sensible. But it is much easier to visualise with a marked up map. Cheers.--(WT-en) Burmesedays 10:21, 12 April 2010 (EDT)
- Added the image for further discussion. This is my preferred 8 regions idea. (WT-en) Cardboardbird 06:53, 13 April 2010 (EDT)
- Guess what I am going to ask :)? Could you please mark out that scheme on a suitable free map source... this one is good: . I think I understand your proposal and it seems eminently sensible. But it is much easier to visualise with a marked up map. Cheers.--(WT-en) Burmesedays 10:21, 12 April 2010 (EDT)
- That looks very sensible indeed to me. Lets wait for more comments before progressing the map further.--(WT-en) Burmesedays 07:33, 13 April 2010 (EDT)
- Nice to see this being broken down thoughtfully. Just FYI, my Australia trace was very precise, so it should be a ready made base for a Western Australia regions map, which should save time ;) --(WT-en) Peter Talk 10:33, 13 April 2010 (EDT)
- Perfect Peter. Just this evening, I was looking around for traces at Commons. Yours is definitely the most appropriate for this task. That will save time for sure. --(WT-en) Burmesedays 10:52, 13 April 2010 (EDT)
- Nice to see this being broken down thoughtfully. Just FYI, my Australia trace was very precise, so it should be a ready made base for a Western Australia regions map, which should save time ;) --(WT-en) Peter Talk 10:33, 13 April 2010 (EDT)
Here we are. Please let me know if anything needs changing or adding. I am not at all sure which of the more minor roads should go on? Or anything else? I am generally pleased with this map. Using Peter's detailed trace of Australia saved a lot of time. Apologies for the nasty bright colour for the Perth region, but tiny regions need that otherwise they are lost. --(WT-en) Burmesedays 07:57, 14 April 2010 (EDT)
- Looks great! As far as extra roads go, Albany Highway (Route 30) from Perth to Albany is a popular route for travellers heading directly to the south coast. All the other major routes are represented. Also, how about putting Eucla on there? It's on the South East border and the first/last place you are if coming from/to SA. - (WT-en) Cardboardbird 19:47, 14 April 2010 (EDT)
- Thanks. All done, plus I added a couple of other roads which link main destinations. Now, over to you to do all the regionalisation work =). You could copy the regionlist table (map is included in this) to the main article at any time now. --(WT-en) Burmesedays 01:22, 15 April 2010 (EDT)
Tell you what, I am pleasantly surprised that the sub-region articles are in reasonable shape. There are very few sub region articles with any meaningful content at Wikivoyage. WA is looking good. The biggest task will be sorting the re-assignments in the previously over-refined South West I think.--(WT-en) Burmesedays 10:01, 15 April 2010 (EDT)
- I had a spare hour and I think the new region scheme is now all in place, redirects issued, breadcrumbs correct etc. Please do check though.--(WT-en) Burmesedays 10:49, 15 April 2010 (EDT)
- Thanks, I was trying to get on it but WT is slothful for me right now and you were making the changes before I could even get the edit page to open. I'm going to be short of free time over the weekend so further work will have to wait till Monday. - (WT-en) Cardboardbird 11:01, 15 April 2010 (EDT)
- I just noticed that the Gascoyne region comes down a bit lower than it should be. Kalbarri NP is in the Midwest. The Gascoyne border should be horizontal just below the Shark bay peninsula. I see that my original sketch was inaccurate. The two coastal districts below Shark Bay should be part of the Midwest. Sorry, all my fault. - (WT-en) Cardboardbird 23:00, 21 April 2010 (EDT)
- Thanks, I was trying to get on it but WT is slothful for me right now and you were making the changes before I could even get the edit page to open. I'm going to be short of free time over the weekend so further work will have to wait till Monday. - (WT-en) Cardboardbird 11:01, 15 April 2010 (EDT)
Cities and Other Destinations
[edit]- It seems odd to me that Port Hedland is not one of the 9 listed cities. I suggest it replaces Exmouth which is easily mentioned in the OD's as the gateway to Ningaloo.
- There are too many ODs listed. I suggest losing Wave Rock, New Norcia and Rottnest Island. I know Perthies love Rottnest, but to be frank it ain't up to much from a visitor's perspective when compared to the wonderful, dramatic ODs in this state. That would get us back to 9.--(WT-en) Burmesedays 13:34, 13 April 2010 (EDT)
- Mandurah should also be listed on the cities list since Mandurah really is a city. In my view, Port Hedlands only attraction (for a traveller) is its proximity to Karijini NP, which is covered on the OD list. Agree with cutting the OD list and dropping Rotto, Wave Rock and New Norcia. Eighty-Mile beach and Mt Augustus seem inessential too. Cutting those 5 would make 8. I'd like to see the Valley of the Giants be a general Southern Forests area that includes Walpole, Pemberton, Gloucester Tree, Valley of the Giants and D'Entrecasteaux National Park. Valley of the Giants is a commercial attractions so it seems a tad touty to list it specifically. (WT-en) Cardboardbird 01:35, 14 April 2010 (EDT)
- Not sure if you know this or not, but our obejctive is always to keep these lists to a max of 9 (the so-called 7+2). Having been to both 80 mile beach (stunning) and Mt Augustus (magnificent rugged beauty), I would pitch for keeping both of those.--(WT-en) Burmesedays 01:55, 14 April 2010 (EDT)
- Yes, I'm quite aware of the max of 9 rule, hence my suggestion of cutting a few. (Pinnacles, Kalbarri NP, Shark Bay/Monkey Mia, Purnululu, Coral Bay/Ningaloo, Karijini National Park, Margaret River, Southern Forests; makes 9). If 80 mile and MtAugustus go in, something has to be cut out. Which one to drop is a tough question since I think they all make a compelling case. - (WT-en) Cardboardbird 03:04, 14 April 2010 (EDT)
- There are 8 on the list you give above. If I had to choose, I would plump for Mt Augustus ahead of 80 mile to make that list up to 9. If you agree, I suggest you plunge forward and re-structure the list. Same for Mandurah - you are dead right there. Lose Exmouth for Mandurah. --(WT-en) Burmesedays 03:13, 14 April 2010 (EDT)
- Yes, I'm quite aware of the max of 9 rule, hence my suggestion of cutting a few. (Pinnacles, Kalbarri NP, Shark Bay/Monkey Mia, Purnululu, Coral Bay/Ningaloo, Karijini National Park, Margaret River, Southern Forests; makes 9). If 80 mile and MtAugustus go in, something has to be cut out. Which one to drop is a tough question since I think they all make a compelling case. - (WT-en) Cardboardbird 03:04, 14 April 2010 (EDT)
- Not sure if you know this or not, but our obejctive is always to keep these lists to a max of 9 (the so-called 7+2). Having been to both 80 mile beach (stunning) and Mt Augustus (magnificent rugged beauty), I would pitch for keeping both of those.--(WT-en) Burmesedays 01:55, 14 April 2010 (EDT)
- Crikey, so there is only 8. My mistake. Too many late nights I think. I agree, Mt Augustus it is then. I'll get on the reorganising - (WT-en) Cardboardbird 03:26, 14 April 2010 (EDT)
- Got to say I don't agree with this list. Exmouth is a prime tourist destination. Mandurah? Bunbury? Geraldton? ahead of Exmouth? Mandurah is almost part of Perth, and really doesn't warrant a mention at the top level. Rottnest may not be up to much, but it has the advantage over much of WA that you can actually get there, without a spare week just to drive there. It also has lots of visitors, so lets be realistic here. --(WT-en) inas 23:51, 19 April 2010 (EDT)
- I think the point on Exmouth was that is gets a key mention in the OD list as the gateway to Ningaloo Reef. If that is not enough, then a swap for Mandurah would be fine with me - a place I know little about and don't even remember passing through (although I must have many times). Bunbury is definitely on the international traveller map for surfing and other water sports, and I guess as the nearest proper town to Margaret River? Geraldton is a world class surfing destination, and I think I met more nationalities of traveller there than anywhere else in WA. Rottnest Island - if you insist :). It is though a grim option compared to the fabulous natural wonders available in this state. Point taken about convenience but I wonder how important that is for most travellers to the state? If you wanted it nice and easy, then why go to WA in the first place? --(WT-en) Burmesedays 00:12, 20 April 2010 (EDT)
- I don't think Bunbury is really associated with the Margaret River, I think that is quite distinct. Maybe Busselton, is associated with it, but not Bunbury. I'm surprised it is internationally known at all, but I'll take your word for it. Can anybody speak in favour of Mandurah though? As far as Rotto goes - lots of people go there, which does make it important in a travel guide, and it really isn't that bad. I also think that Broome is not really best characterised as the gateway to the Kimberley. Lots of people go to Broome, ceble beach, chinatown, many fewer explore the Kimblerley in any depth. --(WT-en) inas 01:25, 20 April 2010 (EDT)
- Agree that Mandurah is of little interest to most travellers. I originally suggested its inclusion as it's the second largest city and so should get a mention. Perhaps if the Perth (region) was extended down to Mandurah it could be included under that? Inas rightly observes that Mandurah is almost a suburb of Perth. The suburban rail line goes there and city workers commute daily to PerthCBD from Mandurah. Same for Rotto. It's close enough to Perth to be a comfortable day trip so might only warrant inclusion in Perth (region). The Cities heading throws me since Esperance, Broome and Kununurra are not actual cities, more like regional centres. Broome is highly overrated but highly popular so its difficult to leave it out. And the Kimberley needs some representation and Broome is usually the first place people go before venturing off yonder. Kununurra, as much as I love it, is not really a big hitter and could happily reside in the OD list. Margaret River should come under the South West region. Yep, "gateway to" anything is a terrible overused cliché. I need to change that. - (WT-en) Cardboardbird 21:06, 20 April 2010 (EDT)
- I don't think Bunbury is really associated with the Margaret River, I think that is quite distinct. Maybe Busselton, is associated with it, but not Bunbury. I'm surprised it is internationally known at all, but I'll take your word for it. Can anybody speak in favour of Mandurah though? As far as Rotto goes - lots of people go there, which does make it important in a travel guide, and it really isn't that bad. I also think that Broome is not really best characterised as the gateway to the Kimberley. Lots of people go to Broome, ceble beach, chinatown, many fewer explore the Kimblerley in any depth. --(WT-en) inas 01:25, 20 April 2010 (EDT)
- Remember that in the Wikivoyage context, a city could be a village, town or city.--(WT-en) Burmesedays 03:26, 22 April 2010 (EDT)
Rail lines for the state map
[edit]A state level map should show only main rail routes. I was planning to show:
- Perth - Kalgoorlie - Nullabor etc
- Perth - Bunbury
- Perth - Albany
- Perth - Geraldton
Are any of the northern routes worth showing in addition? Or are they mainly commercial mine lines?--(WT-en) Burmesedays 03:20, 14 April 2010 (EDT)
- All of the rail lines in the north are privately owned lines for the mines. The passenger lines are; The Prospector (Perth > Kalgoorlie) Avon Link (Perth >Northam) and Australind (Perth > Bunbury). As far as I know there are not any passenger rail services to Albany or Geraldton. The Indian Pacific goes via Kalgoorlie . Also the Perth suburban rail line now goes all the way to Mandurah. This map is a useful reference - (WT-en) Cardboardbird 04:00, 14 April 2010 (EDT)
- So just to confirm, the lines shown on the map you reference to Albany and Geraldton are not for passengers?--(WT-en) Burmesedays 04:12, 14 April 2010 (EDT)
- Yes, The thin light blue lines are ore/wheat train lines. Only the thick lines are for people. Sadly, WA doesn't have much of a rail network - (WT-en) Cardboardbird 04:38, 14 April 2010 (EDT)
- So just to confirm, the lines shown on the map you reference to Albany and Geraldton are not for passengers?--(WT-en) Burmesedays 04:12, 14 April 2010 (EDT)
And the Albany Highway should probably be red. It is the main road to Albany. --(WT-en) inas 23:57, 19 April 2010 (EDT)
- Also, what is the basis for marking the airports. Interstate flights? --(WT-en) inas 01:09, 21 April 2010 (EDT)
- The main basis is that it is my favourite icon :). Please suggest changes if you wish. --(WT-en) Burmesedays 01:19, 21 April 2010 (EDT)
WA state map
[edit](swept in from User talk:Inas)
Hi there. If you have any more comments on the WA state map (eg airports?), please try to make them today as I am about about to fix the Albany highway colour. Be good to get any more fixes done in one hit. Cheers. --(WT-en) Burmesedays 20:51, 21 April 2010 (EDT)
- Hi -
- Highway 1 up to Port Headland, and around to Albany and Esperance, isn't a National Highway. So, it shouldn't use the green shield, but the white one.
- The Albany Highway should be red - its is a main, sealed road.
- The road to Exmouth should be red - again, it is main and sealed.
- I still don't understand the reasoning for where the airports are marked. If they are just for interstate flights, then Kalgoorlie with its one flight to Melbourne a week, doesn't really rate higher than Kunnunurra with its daily to Darwin. If it is major scheduled jet services, then at least Geraldton, Albany, Karratha, should be on there.
- I'm not sure the town is commonly known as Kalgoorlie-Boulder. Maybe the airport is, but the town is just Kalgoorlie.
- The National Park and Ningaloo may be better with a blue shaded area, than just a dot. Maybe Shark Bay doesn't even need a dot, being next to the bay it is apparent.
- I'd still think that we may need more work on our cities list. I think Karratha is more worth a mention than Port Headland, but these decisions are always a little arbitary. --(WT-en) inas 21:46, 21 April 2010 (EDT)
- I will copy to this to Talk:Perth. Thanks for all that, just a few comments:
- It is normal on any WT country or region to differentiate between roads. Red does not mean sealed and yellow unsealed. In a country with decent roads, red would normally mean super big sealed roads such as main highways, and yellow another main road of less importance.
- Airports. Nothing to stop more being on there and I will add.
- Our article is called Kalgoorlie-Boulder. If you think that article should renamed Kalgoorlie, then I would agree with you.
- Blue dots are used universally at WT to mark an OD and I would be reluctant to go against that standard.
- Karratha can be added to the map and I will do so. There is nothing to say that only listed cities should be on the map. As long as all the listed ones are, then the map complies with our star map standard. Others can be added and nearly always are, by me at least. I already added Derby and Eucla which do even have articles!--(WT-en) Burmesedays 04:06, 22 April 2010 (EDT)
- I will copy to this to Talk:Perth. Thanks for all that, just a few comments:
- The straightforward changes all done, including correction of the Gascoyne borders. --(WT-en) Burmesedays 05:03, 22 April 2010 (EDT)
- Looking good. There is a precedent for the Greet Barrier Reef on the Australia map, for when a dot just doesn't cut it. Take the point re Kalgoorlie. Still not sure on the airports though. --(WT-en) inas 09:20, 22 April 2010 (EDT)
Regions grouping as found
[edit]As found, Great Southern and South West is a problematic grouping/combination, whereas Gascoyne/Midlwest is a much better grouping. Strongly suggest this gets changed, if the amount of potential articles to be created can happen - Gascoyne/Midwest feature, population and attraction wise is much more limited - the South West and Great Southern need separating due to the large number of potential tourist locations being a problem if it stays as it is. If there are any watchers for this article - please respond - as in its current state, the concern to keep things down to the 7 rule does not really fit the size of this particular state... try walking the length of it if you dont understand... the state is bigger than europe... sats (talk) 01:33, 12 February 2013 (UTC)
- I can understand your point about the South West region having so many attractions that it would be overloaded. This is not really the case at the moment as there is not that many complete articles. I'd suggest it would be better to develop the existing articles for major destination first and then dividing the region later - Cardboardbird (talk) 14:59, 12 February 2013 (UTC)
- ok point taken, (I would have a problem with specifying any one location as a major destination or attraction necessarily, I would consider parts of wa more in sequence as places that are part of an itinerary rather than having any one 'big number' which is the really heavy obsession on the part of the WA government tourism publicity machine at the current moment), but simply components of the an otherwise empty set of region categories (hardly any articles or itineraries or anything) for most the wa regions. I am suprised by how under-developed the western australia subject area is... sats (talk) 10:06, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
- more I look at under-developed region articles on the western australian collection, the less I am convinced that the arbitrary distinctions made above need to be held as solid. I would strongly suggest the earlier proposal of merging Gascoyne Midwest and separating Great Southern and South West is self evident and really should be made. sats (talk) 15:38, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
- I haven't travelled widely in WA, but I think that the vast experience of sats on Wiki's means that he is perhaps prescient in indicating that it would be better and easier to do any re-organisation of WA regions before rather than after articles are completed.
- I also find the earlier proposal of merging the Gascoyne and Midwest regions to be attractive. However, don't worry at all about that daft 7 plus or minus two nonsense. That's just used by the old guard to justify them parachuting in and causing havoc with an area's natural regions. If they cause trouble, just point to the (non) regionalisation of the US with 13 official regions coloured on their map and then a motley collection of non-state territories as a kind of after-thought! If you think that a regionalisation of four or fourteen regions works better than the "magic 7" then plunge forward. -- Alice✉ 04:28, 17 February 2013 (UTC)
- I don't mind either way. If someone wants to plunge forward and change the regions and the map, please do. Cardboardbird (talk) 05:35, 17 February 2013 (UTC)
- more I look at under-developed region articles on the western australian collection, the less I am convinced that the arbitrary distinctions made above need to be held as solid. I would strongly suggest the earlier proposal of merging Gascoyne Midwest and separating Great Southern and South West is self evident and really should be made. sats (talk) 15:38, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
- ok point taken, (I would have a problem with specifying any one location as a major destination or attraction necessarily, I would consider parts of wa more in sequence as places that are part of an itinerary rather than having any one 'big number' which is the really heavy obsession on the part of the WA government tourism publicity machine at the current moment), but simply components of the an otherwise empty set of region categories (hardly any articles or itineraries or anything) for most the wa regions. I am suprised by how under-developed the western australia subject area is... sats (talk) 10:06, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
clarification
[edit]As discussion has crept onto editor talks pages rather than here, and I was a lot less wikivoyage adept some three months ago - I would like to clarify, that I consider the conflation of the south west and great southern regions as being very unhelpful for the traveller - visitor... and would like to change South West - to South West and Great Southern, and rather merge Gascoyne and Midwest... it appears that agreement had occurred in February, I just weant to re-visit this, and to clarify, before possible changing of the western australian tourist regions. Unfortunately the government tourist bureau has an unhelpful conflation similar to the one here at http://www.tourism.wa.gov.au/Pages/welcome_to_tourism_western_australia.aspx and it would be intellectually dishonest to deny the existence of a monstrosity known as the golden outback as well - their denial of the existence of the wheatbelt region shows a very odd mental certography that has some severe deficiencies. I do not think that the tourism western australia schema does any help for the localities in the regions that are denied - and would consider the regions as found at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regions_of_Western_Australia as being far more equitable spatially to the range of destinations found in the rather large sized state (bigger than europe for that matter) sats (talk) 14:21, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
Page banner
[edit]I have just made a different crop of the same image at Commons. It hurts my eyes when horizons aren't horizontal :) Hope it's ok like this. Danapit (talk) 09:44, 7 July 2013 (UTC)
- That's a billion times better than the previous one. Thanks! - Cardboardbird (talk) 13:55, 7 July 2013 (UTC)
Ninth city
[edit]Since we only have eight cities listed here, I was wondering what could be the ninth? I was thinking maybe Geraldton, Bunbury or Karratha, but since I like many Sydneysiders, have gone all over the world, but never been to WA (although I do have plans to go to Purnululu National Park next winter, but not Perth). If some editor here is from WA, do you have any suggestions. Maybe @JarrahTree, Graham87:, do you have any suggestions? Thanks, SHB2000 (talk | contribs | en.wikipedia) 07:55, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
- @SHB2000: I'd say Busselton but I'm biased because I live there ... or somewhere in the south-west. Busselton is closer to Margaret River than Bunbury, which doesn't have as much around it. Graham87 (talk) 08:25, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
- Oh how did I forget Busselton. I do have to say, most of those cities are in the north and not the south, and it's pretty easy to forget about the south. I'll wait for a response from JarrahTree though. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | en.wikipedia) 08:27, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Graham87: a little off topic, but your userpage says you live in Perth. Did you forget to update it? SHB2000 (talk | contribs | en.wikipedia) 08:32, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
- @SHB2000: Honestly most of the city/town-based tourist infrastructure (apart from Broome/Exmouth) is in the south; the rest is national parks and the like. I kinda semi-forgot about my user page here lol; I've updated it. Graham87 (talk) 09:07, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Graham87:, most of the semi-north is just the outback, isn't it? And about user pages, I forgot to update my commons userpage once and lol, it still had the {{semi retired}} tag on it. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | en.wikipedia) 09:10, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
- @SHB2000: Yeah, basically. Lol re user page. Graham87 (talk) 11:39, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Graham87: :) Anyway, with no input from JarrahTree (happened with docent request as well), Ima just add Busselton. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | en.wikipedia) 11:41, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Graham87: just added it, though what should be the mini blurb? SHB2000 (talk | contribs | en.wikipedia) 11:43, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
- @SHB2000: I've tweaked yours ... should be good now. Graham87 (talk) 13:24, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks mate! SHB2000 (talk | contribs | en.wikipedia) 13:27, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
- @SHB2000: I've tweaked yours ... should be good now. Graham87 (talk) 13:24, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
- @SHB2000: Yeah, basically. Lol re user page. Graham87 (talk) 11:39, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Graham87:, most of the semi-north is just the outback, isn't it? And about user pages, I forgot to update my commons userpage once and lol, it still had the {{semi retired}} tag on it. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | en.wikipedia) 09:10, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
- @SHB2000: Honestly most of the city/town-based tourist infrastructure (apart from Broome/Exmouth) is in the south; the rest is national parks and the like. I kinda semi-forgot about my user page here lol; I've updated it. Graham87 (talk) 09:07, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
Other destinations
[edit]I think we can choose a better "Other destinations" list. Currently, while all of them look nice, only three of them are blue links. I think we should do existing articles for the time being, until someone works on the red links. As someone who's never been to the other side of the country, I believe that Purnululu National Park, the Margaret River, Mt. Augustus, Shark Bay and Coral Bay, but what are some good articles that we have, and are places that are quite important. @Graham87:, what would you choose here? SHB2000 (talk | contribs | en.wikipedia) 07:26, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
- @SHB2000: ... Make that five. We could replace The Pinnacles with New Norcia, but the former has a pic attached. Otherwise I can't think of anything to add. Graham87 (talk) 09:35, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
- Not sure what else to add as well. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | en.wikipedia) 09:37, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
New banner
[edit]Title. Current is also being used for Eyre Highway. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 08:12, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
- Both nice, but I prefer 1, and thanks for your work! Ikan Kekek (talk) 09:21, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
- @Ikan Kekek: I don't know if this counts as being used "elsewhere" but Banner 1 is also being used on Wikivoyage:Australia Expedition SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 10:03, 24 October 2021 (UTC).
- I don't know the area, so I'm not sure how representative either is, but banner 1 looks more colourful and much better, indeed. (And I don't think it being reused in non-mainspace counts as duplication.) Vidimian (talk) 12:20, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
- I've also never been to WA as well, but the park that banner 1 is taken in is a UNESCO site. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 12:30, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
- So another banner should be found for the expedition, but this is a destination article and therefore more public-facing and important. Ikan Kekek (talk) 19:48, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
- Although I don't think there's that much of an issue with having a banner in an expedition and an article. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 05:33, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
- I actually agree with you. Ikan Kekek (talk) 05:46, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
- Although I don't think there's that much of an issue with having a banner in an expedition and an article. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 05:33, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
- So another banner should be found for the expedition, but this is a destination article and therefore more public-facing and important. Ikan Kekek (talk) 19:48, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
- I've also never been to WA as well, but the park that banner 1 is taken in is a UNESCO site. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 12:30, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
- I don't know the area, so I'm not sure how representative either is, but banner 1 looks more colourful and much better, indeed. (And I don't think it being reused in non-mainspace counts as duplication.) Vidimian (talk) 12:20, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
- @Ikan Kekek: I don't know if this counts as being used "elsewhere" but Banner 1 is also being used on Wikivoyage:Australia Expedition SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 10:03, 24 October 2021 (UTC).
- Banner 1 for the article. Maybe you can use Banner 0 for the expedition? Ground Zero (talk) 09:07, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
- I've replaced the Australia Expedition banner with a banner of Mungo National Park (particularly known for containing the world's oldest human bodies), so now banner 1 is will only be used on this article (and banner zero will only be used on Eyre Highway). SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 09:44, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
- Alternatively, if someone is willing to make it, how about using a banner from the Pinnacles Desert? That was certainly one of the highlights of my trip to WA. And unlike Wave Rock, I'd say the Pinnaces Desert was well worth the drive. The dog2 (talk) 17:22, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
- @The dog2: I did make one yesterday, although it doesn't look as nice as Purnululu National Park. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 05:36, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
- OK, good point. It's amazing when you're actually there. But as a banner it's not as spectacular. Banner 1 comes off better. The dog2 (talk) 05:39, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
- Yeah Western Australia has always been on my "to go" list, and when they did open up their borders for one month, it was rainy season up north. Like to try again next year, hopefully in either autumn or spring. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 05:46, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
- OK, good point. It's amazing when you're actually there. But as a banner it's not as spectacular. Banner 1 comes off better. The dog2 (talk) 05:39, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
- @The dog2: Found this beauty just now and cropped a banner out of it, with the Pinnacles. The night sky looks nice with it, but I'd wish to see more of those rocks. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 09:22, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
- With the important caveat that I've never been to Australia, my choices are 3, 1, and then I suppose 2 and then 0. Ikan Kekek (talk) 09:27, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
- I still favor 1, merely because it's a UNESCO WHS and the Pinnacles don't really look like how it's seen in banner 3. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 09:29, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
- With the important caveat that I've never been to Australia, my choices are 3, 1, and then I suppose 2 and then 0. Ikan Kekek (talk) 09:27, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
- @The dog2: Found this beauty just now and cropped a banner out of it, with the Pinnacles. The night sky looks nice with it, but I'd wish to see more of those rocks. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 09:22, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
Park
[edit]See Karratha Discussion for a proposal to merge in Murujuga National Park, which is small and on its doorstep. Grahamsands (talk) 13:29, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
Nice article!
[edit]Just did some ce and wanted to say how much I enjoyed reading this article! It was obviously written by somebody with a sense of humour, and the turns of phrase made it enjoyable to read. It is much less dry than some of the other pages on WV. Thanks! Sgroey (talk) 23:25, 6 March 2024 (UTC)