Talk:Zoos

Curation of list?

The list of zoos really could go on forever. How does anyone intend to curate it? Ikan Kekek (talk) 07:32, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

Only major ones should be included. Maybe we should create a limit: for example, zoos must be in cities with 1,000,000+ people. Selfie City (talk) 14:33, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

San Diego doesn't have a million people. Ikan Kekek (talk) 21:56, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

In Sweden there is a confederation of zoo parks, Svenska djurparksföreningen, with 21 zoos as members. Presumably, other countries have similar organizations, where membership can be used as a criterion for inclusion. /Yvwv (talk) 22:20, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

We could create an "organizations" section for that, Yvwv. Also, Ikan Kekek, this says it's quite a lot over 1,000,000: [1]. Selfie City (talk) 22:37, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

I'm quite surprised. However, I don't think the size of the city itself is relevant. Neither San Francisco nor Oakland has 1 million inhabitants, and San Jose barely meets the cutoff, but the metropolitan area they're part of has way more than that. Ikan Kekek (talk) 07:22, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

True, but then we get silliness like Granby (Québec). There's no way to stretch this to portray Granby (pop. 63000) as a Montréal suburb or part of any "metropolitan area" if it's nearly halfway to Magog and Sherbrooke in Québec's Eastern Townships, but it is the "biggest" zoo in the province (with half a million visitors annually) and a common day trip from Montréal. K7L (talk) 15:31, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

Is it the size of the city, or the size and scope of the zoological gardens, which matters here? Certainly Apple Valley (Minnesota) has 3,524,583 residents if you count everything in sixteen counties clear out to Wisconsin, but the municipality itself is likely way under one million. At some point, we run into the annoying detail that some formats (such as "lion safari" parks where the voyagers are confined to their vehicles while wildlife roams somewhat free) don't work unless they're built far enough from the city centre to have access to huge acreages of land. K7L (talk) 23:55, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

K7L, good point. It's the zoo that counts, not the place it's in. On that basis, I think we should include only the really famous zoos and no others. However, as things stand, the list of zoos isn't too long, so we can leave it as it is. Selfie City (talk) 01:02, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

In response to K7L about Granby (Quebec): then I think we should probably include Granby's zoological gardens for Quebec and that one only for that province. Selfie City (talk) 18:05, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

If there were a website that made a list of zoos by number of annual visitors, that might be a good source. I just can't imagine looking up each zoo individually to find those numbers, though.

Also, in some countries, we probably want to feature the more ethical zoos instead of the most popular. WhatamIdoing (talk) 19:39, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

Petting dangerous animals?

The article currently says, "while safety measures are put in place at most zoos in developed nations, in some places, you'll be allowed to pet a potentially dangerous animal 'at your own risk'. That doesn't mean it's safe to do so." This seems strange to me. Surely any zoo with dangerous animals will have safety measures of some kind. Developed countries don't have a monopoly on safety measures. And even in the least developed of countries, no zoo would want the PR disaster of a tourist being mauled by an animal on their property. Can anyone provide examples of zoos with dangerous animals but no safety measures (?!?) or zoos where visitors are allowed to pet dangerous animals at their own risk? If not, I think these sentences should be removed or substantially rewritten. —Granger (talk · contribs) 02:18, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

Seeing no response, I have removed the sentences. —Granger (talk · contribs) 12:07, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

"No safety measures"? Maybe not no safety measures at all; perhaps some of them are only inadequate safety measures, such as letting people hand-feed a tiger or having fences that people can easily climb over. The PR disasters do happen. WhatamIdoing (talk) 19:52, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

Alternative banner for this article?

Banner currently used in this article

Suggested new alternative banner

I have previously created an alternative banner for this article (which was initially created for the parallel article at the Hebrew Wikivoyage, but I decided to suggest we'll use it here at the English Wikivoyage article as well). Which banner do you prefer that we'll use on the top of this article? ויקיג'אנקי (talk) 13:31, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

• Support new banner. Vaticidalprophet (talk) 14:14, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

I don't really like either banner, sorry. The existing one isn't sharp and the proposed one makes me feel like I'm falling off the edge because of the weird way the people are shown. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 01:26, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

Keep the current banner until we get a clearly better contender. /Yvwv (talk) 16:44, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

• Current banner, or a better alternative. AlasdairW (talk) 22:07, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
• Neither- To be honest, I don't like either of them. SHB2000 (talk) 10:28, 23 March 2021 (UTC)