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Formatting and language conventions

For articles about the Philippines, please use the 12-hour clock to show times, e.g. 9AM-noon and 6PM-midnight.

Please show prices in this format: ₱100, and not 100 pesos, or PHP100.

Please use American spelling.

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No visa on arrival for Chinese[edit]

BI suspends issuance of visas upon arrival to Chinese nationals Pashley (talk) 05:50, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Fingerprinting and photographing[edit]

I have just rewritten sentences regarding fingerprinting and photographing as part of the immigration process, but I don't know when it is first implemented. I have gone through that upon departure at NAIA in 2018, and again in 2019, but can someone tell a time when there was no fingerprinting and photographing yet at the immigration booths? TagaSanPedroAko (talk) 19:27, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

When it was first implemented is of interest to historians, but we don't really need to include that information here, just the fact that it's done. Ikan Kekek (talk) 20:28, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Sangley Point International Airport[edit]

It is the newest airport in the Philippines became operational on February 15, 2020. Mayon V (talk) 04:10, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

Please list only airports in "Get in" if they have scheduled international flights. So far, Sangley Point only has charter flights to Balesin Island (though many low-cost carriers are planning to move there). I also removed Legazpi Airport for the same reason.--TagaSanPedroAko (talk) 03:14, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
No, some airports without international flights should be listed, e.g. Dumaguete#By_plane. Pashley (talk) 03:54, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
Do you mean listing airports which have no international flights in the meantime, but have plans to be connected internationally? Sangley Point is too early to be listed in "Get in"; the only passenger flights are connections to a private resort island off the eastern coast of Luzon, but budget carriers currently serving NAIA are planning to move some flights there. The Dumaguete page says it will be served by international flights, but on a new airport which is still on the planning board.--TagaSanPedroAko (talk) 04:07, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

Third party[edit]

It is the current term used by millenials to mean "a mistress". —The preceding comment was added by Mayon V (talkcontribs)

In the context of a travel guide, why should anyone care? Pashley (talk)


I think it's time to add a warning or caution related to the COVID-19 outbreak for the Philippines. While confirmed cases are largely concentrated in Metro Manila, with the first case recorded in the city of San Juan, a state of emergency has been declared since March 9, and cases are slowly increasing.--TagaSanPedroAko (talk) 03:08, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

I agree though I think every country with more than a handful of confirmed cases have the box. France, for instance, has over 1,400 cases but there is no mention of Covid-19 in the article. Gizza (roam) 04:08, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
Last I heard, the Philippines had only 20 confirmed cases, but that was up from 10 a few days earlier. It might be a huge problem if it keeps doubling every few days, but I do not think it is yet.
For our purposes, travel restrictions are more important. I'm hazy on details, but some airlines have cancelled flights e.g. [1], some travellers are being refused entry & others quarantined [2]. Pashley (talk) 04:40, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
The warning box says "hundreds of cases" have been reported, link above says 20 confirmed. Which is correct? Perhaps both: hundreds suspected, but few confirmed? Pashley (talk) 08:16, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
w:2020 coronavirus outbreak in the Philippines says 33 confirmed, 25 suspected. JHU's page also says 33 confirmed. I'd say the caution box should be corrected. —Granger (talk · contribs) 08:33, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
This report says 64 cases. Pashley (talk) 03:56, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
The current NAIA warning box text also says "All flights and ground transportation to and from NAIA are to be canceled from March 15 through March 22", but the w:Ninoy Aquino International Airport does not mention this & my (rather cursory) web search does not turn up confirmation. In fact, Philstar has "While domestic traffic in and out of Metro Manila is not allowed, international flight to and from abroad will be allowed." Pashley (talk) 04:11, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
I'm currently listening on a live stream from a local AM radio station, and the latest reports say people are rushing to catch the last flights at NAIA before the lockdown. I previously looked up the MIAA website, but there seems to be no advisory about it (maybe the only info indicative the airport will shut down is that there would be no flights listed on their arrivals and departures schedule pages).
Getting back on general advisories and warnings, I also updated the Metro Manila page as the details of the lockdown (e.g. curfew, entry restrictions, no-sail zone, social distancing on mass transit) closures of most businesses except those providing basic needs) is being elaborated. I since upgraded the caution box into a warning, with links to travel advisories. The US State Department does not have an updated advisory as of March 13, but the US Embassy in Manila has posted an information page related to the pandemic in the country.--TagaSanPedroAko (talk) 05:33, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
@Pashley: National government has extended community quarantine to all of Luzon. All forms of public transportation throughout Luzon is suspended, anyone who violates the quarantine can be arrested for public disobedience, and foreigners must leave within 72 hours and inbound international flights are only for repatriated Filipinos. I updated the warnings in Metro Manila and the Philippines, and added an additional warning for Luzon.--TagaSanPedroAko (talk) 22:32, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
All 2Go boats cancelled until April 14.
DOTr says private vehicles can transport plane passengers to airports, useful after April 12 when international flights are supposed to resume. Hope so, since I have a ticket for 14th. Pashley (talk) 13:05, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

Effects of travel ban to all foreigners due to COVID-19[edit]

Philippine gov't ban most foreigners from entering the country due to COVID-19.

I updated the "Visa restrictions" box, but I don't know whether the ban also has an effect on those already in the country, or those holding long-term (student, employment, temporary/permanent resident) visas. What I only know from the latest report is that those having visas but haven't traveled yet would be affected, and that Filipinos returning from overseas, foreigners married to Filipino citizens, members of charitable organizations registered in the country, and diplomatic officials would be exempted. --TagaSanPedroAko (talk) 05:06, 21 March 2020 (UTC)

Poverty line?[edit]

We currently have this text:

According to the National Statistical Coordination Board, more than one-quarter of the population fell below the poverty line in 2014, an approximate 78% increase since 2013.

That does not look right: 78% in one year? Anyway, it would be good to have more recent statistics.

Also perhaps to give numbers that give some perspective: Does anyone die of malnutrition? Of untreated illness because they cannot afford treatment? How common are preventable diseases like polio or measles? How many people live without things that people in western countries take for granted like electricity or running water? Pashley (talk) 11:24, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

Yes, statistics is not necessarily the best way to give the reader a picture. The "poverty line" has many competing standard definitions. One is 50 % of median income (by some definition, and country comparisons can rely critically on the exact definition). In Finland that figure happens to come near what you get from social security unless you get enough income from elsewhere – which means a slight increase of median income can increase "poverty" dramatically. –LPfi (talk) 11:34, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
I'd think the situation is different in the Philippines, but perhaps minimum wages are close to the poverty line, and them lagging with living costs increasing could have a similar effect. –LPfi (talk) 11:37, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
These numbers look weird, so I have updated them from here. If there are better ways of illustrating the problem, please add them. Ground Zero (talk) 11:53, 30 April 2020 (UTC)


Do anyone here know of cruises which calls here in the Philippines? Our "Get in" section doesn't provide any info about them right now, pre-COVID. TagaSanPedroAko (talk) 21:23, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

Article status?[edit]

This is currently tagged as an Outline, which seems silly to me given the length & detail of the article. I'm not certain if it belongs at Usable or Guide, though I'm sure it is not at Star level (yet?).

Does someone have the time to review & promote it? Pashley (talk) 12:42, 12 May 2020 (UTC)