Template talk:RegionStats

Attribution to a list of authors in Template:RegionStats/depreciated. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | en.wikipedia) 11:05, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

Rural area articles

I propose that we add rural area articles to expeditions and this template. Unlike itineraries and phrasebooks, these actually fall into a hierarchy (sorta) and they should belong in expeditions. I'm not entirely sure why it wasn't added in the first place, but there's plenty of rural area articles out there, and should belong in expeditions. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | en.wikipedia) 04:31, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

I don't understand what you're suggesting. First, they're not regions in the hierarchy because they're bottom-level articles. Second, an expedition can be about anything. Ikan Kekek (talk) 05:42, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

Aren't they very similar to cities? SHB2000 (talk | contribs | en.wikipedia) 08:28, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

Right, both are bottom-level articles. Ikan Kekek (talk) 08:49, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

And if it's not clear, I'm proposing to add another rural area row to it. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | en.wikipedia) 08:52, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

Got it. Sure, if there are rural area articles, they count. Ikan Kekek (talk) 10:17, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

tbh, there's only two rural area articles that I know of, but surely there's more. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | en.wikipedia) 10:19, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

Just created a category for that. Now I need to create a draft version of this template and need to warn all users on the pub. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | en.wikipedia) 10:30, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

Done. added to draft. Now I'll give the community 40 days until I move the template over. Alternatively, I can give create a new name, and those who don't want to use this new one may continue using the old template. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | en.wikipedia) 10:38, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

{{ping|SHB2000}} take a look at Wikivoyage:Article status and scroll down the page. There are a little over 200 rural area articles, so it’s definitely a good idea to include rural areas within the regionstats template. I support. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 16:48, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

@SelfieCity: If I added it here, then variable 36 and onwards would be messed up. That's why I'm slowly adding it, onto a new template, and then I'll delete (after Saturday) this template or move it, so I can move the other template to this template. Sounds confusing, but unfortunately there was no custom variables here, so I guess we'd have to do this tedious old fashion way. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | en.wikipedia) 01:35, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

Major changes to Template:RegionStats

Swept in from the pub

Currently, {{RegionStats}} does not have a row on rural areas. Unlike phrasebooks, or itineraries, rural areas belong to one country, but did not have its own row. Due to that reason, a new template has now been created, called {{RegionStats/WRA}}. Over the next 40 days, I'll try and convert all templates over to the new one, but until then, there may be slight disruption in the templates used.

In a nutshell, I'll be changing all expeditions to the new template, which contains a row for rural areas. In which the current template does not.

Here's just a list on how many expeditions have been converted, in particular, the Nordic countries expedition has had quite a change.

• Wikivoyage:Australia Expedition
• Wikivoyage:Portugal Expedition
• Wikivoyage:Nigeria Expedition
• Wikivoyage:Nordic countries Expedition
• Wikivoyage:Africa Expedition
• Wikivoyage:Canada Expedition
• Wikivoyage:Ireland Expedition
• Wikivoyage:Albania Expedition
• Wikivoyage:Brazil Expedition
• Wikivoyage:Germany Expedition
• Wikivoyage:Hungary Expedition
• Wikivoyage:Kosovo Expedition
• Wikivoyage:Wales Expedition
• Wikivoyage:Ohio Expedition
• Wikivoyage:Massachusetts Expedition
• Wikivoyage:England Expedition
• Wikivoyage:Scotland Expedition
• Wikivoyage:Northern Ireland Expedition
• Wikivoyage:California Expedition

Left to do:

None left. But i may have missed one.

--SHB2000 (talk | contribs | en.wikipedia) 11:08, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

Good idea. This covers many articles missing in several countries' Expeditions. Portugal has no articles classified as rural areas. Given the country's size and 100% coverage by municipalities, I find that city, park, and region articles handle destinations of interest fairly well. I guess other editors have felt likewise. Nelson Ricardo (talk) 17:49, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

Rural areas are the newest article type on WV (maybe a year old), so many places don’t have rural area articles yet, or existing articles haven’t been moved to the new status. However, rural articles aren’t appropriate for many regions of the world where cities are the focus of points of interest, and if they don’t suit Portugal’s orientation, that’s okay. However they may be some rural interior valleys that would be suited for rural area articles if the whole of a rural area offers the traveler more than the sum of its parts? --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 19:11, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

In the case of Portugal, I expect that some of the islands in the Azores might be rural areas, but I haven't looked in detail. AlasdairW (talk) 22:28, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

Even though rural area articles are quite new, there's about 51 of them for Nordic countries (although I have to say, LPfi and Yvwv wrote most of them.) SHB2000 (talk | contribs | en.wikipedia) 23:47, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

To @Nelson Ricardo 2500, SelfieCity, AlasdairW: since there have been no objections for about 60 days, the template can now fully handle rural areas and all of them have since been replaced. The old template can be found at Template:RegionStats/depreciated. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 22:50, 12 September 2021 (UTC)

Next steps

The next steps here are to check if I've missed any expeditions in the list. Hopefully I haven't missed any. In 37 days time, I will redirect the new template to the old name, and thus, the old one will be no longer in use. If after this date, any expedition is missed, just move all the variables by 6 and are after the "Total Dive". Thanks! SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 02:26, 7 July 2021 (UTC)

No reports of any missed expeditions? Because I'm moving the new one to the old one in 16 days. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 22:12, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

I'm moving this now, and this template will be officially depreciated :( SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 22:42, 12 September 2021 (UTC)