Talk:South Asia

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Better to edit mistakes, rather than revert[edit]

User:Saqib: with this edit, you suggested your revert be discussed here.

I have a suspicion that you object to the situation being described accurately in Pakistan in a way that gives sufficient warning to the traveller of the risks involved, but surely you do not take exception to

  1. having a lower case I-for-India after a comma: "although it is mostly part of Central Asia, It"
  2. expanding an ugly abbreviation in prose: "per square kilometre is 7 times the world average." rather than "per square km is 7 times the world average." If you really wish to abbreviate, then the approved SI symbolisation of km² should be used.
  3. Using the Commonwealth English of " it's flavoursome food " rather than US spelling of " it's flavorfull food "
  4. Using the shorter and more common abbreviation of "UK" rather than "U.K."

do you? -- 07:21, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

Can we focus on one point rather than jumping from one roof to another. So lets come straight to the point. I'm not providing inaccurate or false information when it comes to security situation in Pakistan. See Pakistan#Stay_safe and Karachi#Stay_safe. It gives enough warning to a traveller. The description in region-list should be precious and give overview of the country rather than the deep information about security issues. In my opinion "Tourism is suffering due to the unpredictable security situation." is more than enough. --Saqib (talk) 09:41, 30 September 2014 (UTC)


User:Wikigura I cannot completely agree with the current status of the map. First, it is not depicting the boundaries of the countries correctly, especially in the disputed Kashmir region. Second, the entire state of Kashmir should be part of the map, but some of the (East Kashmir) regions are not shown. Finally, reference for the map is clearly missing.

User:Wikigura, I moved your post to the bottom of the page, so that it's clearly visible as the latest post. Also, the way to sign your posts on talk pages is by typing 4 tildes (~) in a row at the end of the post. Having said that, as I've stated elsewhere, I think you have some basic misunderstandings about what this site is. The prime directive of this site is the traveller comes first. That means that all de facto boundaries are recognized, not because we necessarily think that they're optimal, but because for travellers, their paramount interest in borders has to do with the limits of where you can travel on what visa. You should also read welcome, Wikipedians, because travel guides don't need to give some kind of official reference for maps; the maps are simply hosted at Wikimedia Commons. Thirdly, territorial claims and counterclaims, like other political disputes, are dealt with on this site with a simple standard of be fair. This site can no more take a position favoring Indian claims to Pakistani-controlled parts of Kashmir than one favoring Pakistani claims to Indian-controlled parts of Kashmir or indeed the desires of some Kashmiris for and independent state of Kashmir that would presumably cover all parts of Kashmir. Ikan Kekek (talk) 07:10, 4 May 2017 (UTC)

User:Ikan Kekek: I completely disagree with your point -- "because travel guides don't need to give some kind of official reference for maps". You cannot just put a map you feel it as appropriate. I did not put the Indian government claimed map on the page nor the Pakistan's version. Instead, the page requires a more factual and internationally recognized map with dotted borders and clear demarcations. A map, be it anywhere, should be as per the officially recognized way and not as per some random personal choice. I hope you understand that I am undoing your previous edits not for personal choice but to make wiki-voyage page a bit more factual source. Wikigura (talk) 07:31, 4 May 2017 (UTC)

No, don't you understand that the official Indian version is that all of Kashmir belongs to India and the official Pakistani version is that all of Kashmir belongs to Pakistan? Neither official map can be included in a travel guide. Travel guides in any case aren't about which borders are officially recognized; they're about actual conditions on the ground. I'm sorry, but if you can't accept that, you don't need to be here. Ikan Kekek (talk) 07:48, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
If the area in contention is administrated by Pakistan then the map is accurate. --Andrewssi2 (talk) 07:58, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
Also relevant from earlier discussion File_talk:Map_of_South_Asia.png Andrewssi2 (talk) 08:00, 4 May 2017 (UTC)