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Archiving my talk page[edit]

@Ikan Kekek: Hi, I was trying to create an archive for my talk page at this page, but it said that my action was disallowed and to contact an administrator. 08:05, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

Sorry, I didn't see this ping somehow. I see the archive page, though. It exists, so you should be able to move anything to it. Let me know if you have any more problems. Ikan Kekek (talk) 21:48, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
@Ikan Kekek: When I try to copy and paste, it says that I am using other people's signatures, marks it as vandalism, and asks me to contact an administrator. 08:56, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
I just saw that those edits were disallowed by a filter. I think the problem was cleared up and you should be able to archive stuff now if you try. Please try and let me know, before I open a discussion with technical people about this. Ikan Kekek (talk) 09:06, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
@Ikan Kekek: yep, that worked. thanks. 09:32, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
I'm glad. Sorry I didn't notice this earlier. The pings aren't working, somehow. Ikan Kekek (talk) 10:10, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
@Ikan Kekek: I am not an expert, but I understand that pings don't work for users who are not logged in. Enclosing the UserID in "[[ ]]" like this: User:Ikan Kekek does generate a notification though, I think? Cheers, Ottawahitech (talk) 22:03, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
It didn't. I'm logged in, though. Ikan Kekek (talk) 22:54, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
@Ikan Kekek: Sorry for the confusion, I was replying to your original post in which you said you did not receive a ping from I tried to explain that the reason you did not receive a ping was because the user was not logged in. However, it appears I may have been wrong. I just received a ping from a different IP user, who sent me a ping on another wiki. Cheers, Ottawahitech (talk) 00:31, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

@Ottawahitech: Let's test this. I am an IP user. 10:00, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Yes @ I got your ping, but I cannot not use the notification system to thank you, but I can (and have)use(d) it to thank ‎ @Ikan Kekek Ottawahitech (talk) 23:00, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
Yeah, it's impossible to thank IP users (unless you post a message to their user talk pages). Ikan Kekek (talk) 02:12, 7 February 2021 (UTC)


It's wiki convention that talk pages stay in the order they were written in. When the page gets too long, older discussions get moved into an archive. I have rolled back all your recent edits to that page, though I did reinstate your idea for 2021, at the bottom of the page, where it belongs.--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 16:38, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

Oh ok, I was thinking we could split the page into actual April Fools suggestions and all the other stuff that's on there. 09:58, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

Less active[edit]

I might be a bit less active for a few months as I have recently returned to school. I will still try to edit at least once every two weeks if I can. :) 15:05, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

Why not create an account? SHB2000 (talk) 05:55, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

Broken leg[edit]

I broke my leg a few days ago. Expect me to be less active for a while. 12:41, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

Why, do you type with your feet? =)
Seriously though, sorry to hear about your broken leg; I broke my arm last spring and at first it sucked, but it wasn't as bad as it seemed. Get well soon.--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 15:58, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
@ThunderingTyphoons!: Thank you for your kind words. I hope to return when I’m feeling better (maybe next week but I can’t make any promises!). 19:51, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
I'm sorry to hear that. I hope you recover quickly! Ikan Kekek (talk) 18:53, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

@Ikan Kekek: Thank you! 19:57, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

@ I see I'm not alone with my injured finger. Hope you get better though. SHB2000 (talk) 05:55, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

@SHB2000: I hope to be back by next week, until then I will take a break from Wikivoyage. 20:05, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

Anyway, how's your leg now? SHB2000 (talk) 23:25, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
@SHB2000: A bit better, thank you. 10:06, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
:) SHB2000 (talk) 10:09, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

Creating an account[edit]


Why not create an account? Considering that IP's aren't permanent, as well as I've been checking all IP's to see if they aren't User:ArticCynda. Additionally, you can move pages as well as be thanked for your edits.

Also, hope your leg gets better mate :)

Cheers, SHB2000 (talk) 05:59, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

@SHB2000: Thank you for your nice comment! I don't want to use an account on Wikivoyage as I have been editing under an IP for four months. I do not know who that person is, but if you geolocate my IP address, you should be able to see I am based in Eastleigh, England. I think I will stop editing Wikivoyage for a while, just until my leg gets better. 11:45, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
It won’t let me put the name of the user above as it triggers the filter ‘Block evasion’. That is why I wrote “that person” instead of the user’s name. 13:17, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
I see. SHB2000 (talk) 22:20, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

Time off due to broken leg[edit]

I am planning to not edit Wikivoyage for at least a week due to my broken leg. @Ikan Kekek, Ground Zero:, do you know if there’s any way to get w:Template:Wikibreak to work here? I will not edit for a while, so I might not see talk page queries for a while. Thank you. 21:20, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

It won't work here, because we don't have the code for it. If you need something that stands out, you could use {{Cautionbox|your message}}.--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 21:23, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

Wikibreak template[edit]

Regarding the wikibreak template, I've copied the one of enwiki with a few modifications. Hope it works. Just put {{Wikibreak}} and it should work. SHB2000 (talk) 04:13, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

@SHB2000: Thank you! 07:10, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

I'm back[edit]

I'm back. I will try to edit when I can. 14:11, 7 April 2021 (UTC)

Is your leg better? SHB2000 (talk) 22:58, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
@SHB2000: A bit. 16:20, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
By the way, how was the wikibreak template. How can it be improved? SHB2000 (talk) 07:26, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
@SHB2000: I don’t know. 07:36, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

@SHB2000: Did you get my ping? 08:18, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Yes I did. SHB2000 (talk) 08:19, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
@SHB2000: Ok, thanks. 08:21, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
And this one as well. SHB2000 (talk) 12:28, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

@SHB2000: Thanks for telling me. 12:44, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

A British barncompass for you![edit]

Houses.of.parliament.overall.arp.jpg The British Wikivoyage Barncompass
For all your great work on British articles. You deserve a barncompass. Hope your leg gets better and also note, you're the first person on Wikivoyage to receive this barncompass. Take care, --SHB2000 (talk) 10:29, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
@SHB2000: Thank you so much! 11:39, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
I feel the same whenever someone gives me a barncompass as well :) Take care, SHB2000 (talk) 11:41, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
@SHB2000: Thank you again! 11:42, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
Is the photo taken from the London Eye? It's got a good view of the westminister tower and it's hard to take that view from the ground. SHB2000 (talk) 13:00, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

@SHB2000: If you click on the photo, you can see the description is "The Houses of Parliament, seen across Westminster Bridge". 15:49, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

I miss going on those ad-free red buses. SHB2000 (talk) 23:26, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
@SHB2000: Since I can’t edit your talk page, I’ll post it here. Do you think it would be easier, if instead of creating each new barnstar as a different template, you could just add another parameter called “Variation”, where you could just type a number/word to change the Barncompass to that variation? 14:50, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
Well, I'm doing this for the greater WV community so I'd prefer to have each and induvidual barncompass. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | en.wikipedia) 21:22, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
@SHB2000: Ok. 06:43, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
And the fact that these barncompasses contain slang, (e.g. Aussie, Kiwi) SHB2000 (talk | contribs | en.wikipedia) 09:30, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
But to say, we could create redirects. I might work on it, but when I come back from (I'm not sure if I can publically tell) (1 May)SHB2000 (talk | contribs | en.wikipedia) 09:32, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

1,000th edit[edit]

Adding this message to my talk page is my 1,000th edit on Wikivoyage! 19:29, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

Kinda late, but congrats mate. I think you've got the most number of edits as an IP user in the history of Wikivoyage. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | en.wikipedia) 13:07, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
@SHB2000: This list shows a list of users and the number of contributions they've made since the 1st of January. 17:15, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
Then I think I'm the most active editor here on this site. I recently did 3000 is edits in my april break and KevRobbSCO left. So I'm the most active editor on two wiki's now. (na.wikipedia as well) SHB2000 (talk | contribs | en.wikipedia) 07:14, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
Had a local Covid case after 150 ish days in Sydney which I might be at home more = more editing here. It's strange when there's one case in Australia and the state goes panicing but no one really panics in the US with 44k a day does nothing. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | en.wikipedia) 08:35, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
@SHB2000: I don't think the list works properly as I have not made over 1,000 edits in the last month. 14:37, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
You might've. I just made 500 edits in the past 3 days unknowingly. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | en.wikipedia) 07:54, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

Opinion requested in Talk:Jervis Bay[edit]

Hi there, your opinion is requested in Talk:Jervis Bay. I've proposed a major change and if done, this is fairly significant and will disrupt a number of articles. Thanks and take care, SHB2000 (talk | contribs | en.wikipedia) 08:51, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

@SHB2000: Replied to you there. 14:32, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Last Edit Date[edit]

Swept in from the pub

Why did the 'Last Edit Date' section inside templates change? It used to say "subst:#time:Y-m-d", but now it just has the date. Why do I have to change it every time now? 14:30, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

For me it still seems to say {{subst:#time:Y-m-d}}.
Have you tried using the listing editor instead of the visual editor for modifying listings? You can get to the listing editor by clicking the grey "edit" button at the end of the listing. I find it easier to use than the visual editor, and it gives you a box to check for whether or not to mark the listing as up-to-date. —Granger (talk · contribs) 18:10, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
@Mx. Granger, On the most recent tech updates section (see on my talk page) it says it could be confused with Y-Y then Y-M. SHB2000 (talk) 22:55, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
That note is about the mw:citoid service, which makes Wikipedia-style little blue clicky numbers (like this: [1]). That change shouldn't affect anything else. WhatamIdoing (talk) 01:17, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
@Mx. Granger: It does for me, but whenever I update a template, it replaces subst:#time:Y-m-d with 2021-04-11 or whatever the date is. 16:17, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
I see. It seems that in the visual editor, the lastedit date is only updated automatically for logged-in users, not for users editing anonymously. I can see three solutions:
a) accept that if you want to mark the listing as up to date, you'll need to do so manually,
b) use the listing editor instead of the visual editor, or
c) create an account instead of editing anonymously.
Granger (talk · contribs) 19:47, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

@Mx. Granger: It used to do it automatically for me, it’s just doesn’t now. I’ll probably do option A or B, depending on how I feel. Thanks for your help. 20:04, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

@Mx. Granger: unfortunately can't as whenever he does that, it triggers the filter "block evasion" SHB2000 (talk) 22:22, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
@SHB2000, Mx. Granger: no it doesn’t, it triggered that filter because I typed the name of a blocked user on my talk page. 07:14, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
Oh I see. That's ArticCynda right? SHB2000 (talk) 07:18, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
@SHB2000: Yes. You left a message on my talk page saying you were checking all IP addresses to check if they were him. I tried to type his name in my reply to you, and that’s what triggered the filter. 07:22, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
I'm sometimes very sloppy at times and have goldfish memory other times. SHB2000 (talk) 07:25, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

I see. Thank you. 07:26, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

@Mx. Granger: Option B seems to be working fine for me. Thank you for all your help. 16:47, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Problem with the pings?[edit]

Swept in from the pub

Pings seem to not be working as well recently; here are a few examples: [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] 17:58, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

@ What leads you to believe that? Nelson Ricardo (talk) 20:20, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
By the way, I got an alert that I can't ping you, because you're anonymous. Nelson Ricardo (talk) 20:23, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
@Nricardo: I know people can’t ping me. 05:00, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
But seriously, why not create an account. You could be instantly an autopatrolled user as I don't usually want to patrol them, as I'm 300% sure that it's good faith (unless the IP address goes to someone else). And you could edit autoconfirmed pages. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | en.wikipedia) 06:33, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
@SHB2000: I do not want to use an account as I have been editing under an IP for 5 months. 06:35, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
Yes, I made that mistake when editing under an IP for 9 months (on enwiki, not here). Totally regret it. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | en.wikipedia) 06:36, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
For that reason, I don’t want to use an account and lose five months worth of edits. 06:38, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
I see, our situations were different. I usually get a new IP every 5 days (where I got one 500km away from where I am), but you've had this for like ages. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | en.wikipedia) 06:41, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── @SHB2000: I see. My IP only changes when I reset my router. 06:44, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

On sv-wp we have a user who registered "User:Former x.x.x.x" (with x:s from his IP). That's a bit extreme. You could link to your IP talk page and IP contributions. I think it'd be worthwhile. If you don't have control over your IP, you'd lose it anyway sooner or later. –LPfi (talk) 07:13, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
Do we have that here? SHB2000 (talk | contribs | en.wikipedia) 08:04, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
@SHB2000: It's just a user who chose such a user name. Instead of the IP user "User:" there is a logged in user "User:Former_192.0.2.123." –LPfi (talk) 15:06, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

Is you? SHB2000 (talk | contribs | en.wikipedia) 07:08, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

If you create an account, on your userpage you can say what your IP address was so you can claim credit for all of the work you did in the last 5 months. That would be better than continuing anonymously, making it harder to everyone to communicate with you. Gizza (roam) 23:18, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
You could create an account that says 82 etc. similar to 162 etc. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | en.wikipedia) 08:17, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

Can't edit pages with the VisualEditor anymore[edit]

Swept in from the pub

Why can I no longer edit pages without editing source? It is really annoying because:

A) I can no longer easily edit templates without editing their source
B) The 'lastedit' section of templates doesn't change automatically, so I have to go back and change it manually.

The last time I was able to do this was on the 7th of April. Why won't it let me edit pages with the VisualEditor anymore? 11:38, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

Wait, I can change it from source to visual editing on my tablet. I will see if I can do that on my laptop (where I do most of my edits) when I go back on it later. 12:10, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
Had a similar problem earlier today except that my computer would freeze every time I’d try and click a wiki voyage link. No problems on en wikipedia (even twinkle and redwarn were loading. Something wrong with wikivoyage today SHB2000 (talk) 12:18, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
@, SHB2000: What browsers are you using? —Granger (talk · contribs) 12:31, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
Was using Chrome now I’m using safari on mobile SHB2000 (talk) 12:35, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

@SHB2000, Mx. Granger, ThunderingTyphoons!: Never mind, I figured it out. It is because I cleared my history and cookies a few days ago, and it forgot I preferred visual editing over source editing. 12:46, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

@SHB2000, Mx. Granger, ThunderingTyphoons!: Yes, I'm on my laptop now and it is letting me make visual edits. 14:15, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
It's still a problem for me, although I prefer source editing except when it comes to tables (which I'm okay with). SHB2000 (talk) 22:51, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
Logged-in editors might want to check Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing, specifically the "Editing mode" option. That lets you define your favorite starting point. WhatamIdoing (talk) 01:15, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
I just realised that I only noticed on talk pages and this pub, which don't need the visual editor and don't have the visual version. SHB2000 (talk) 08:58, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
If you'd like a visual experience on talk pages, you might look at "Discussion tools" in Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-betafeatures. I like it. WhatamIdoing (talk) 21:12, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

This is the discussion page for an anonymous user who has not created an account yet, or who does not use it. We therefore have to use the numerical IP address to identify them. Such an IP address can be shared by several users. If you are an anonymous user and feel that irrelevant comments have been directed at you, please create an account or log in to avoid future confusion with other anonymous users.