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Here we determine which articles are featured on the Main Page as Destination of the month (DotM), Off the Beaten Path (OtBP) and Featured travel topics (FTT).

Nominate[edit]

You can nominate any article you would like to see featured. Any destination, region, itinerary or event that passes the "What is an article?" test is eligible for nomination.

However, before nominating, please check that the article follows these basic guidelines:

Well-known and/or popular destinations should be nominated as Destination of the Month, while more obscure destinations should be nominated for Off the Beaten Path. Travel topics, phrasebooks, itineraries and other articles should be nominated for Featured Travel Topic. Where applicable, you should propose a good time to visit the destination as a month to be featured.

The basic format of a nomination is as follows:

{{FeatureNom
| place=Destination
| blurb='''[[Destination]]''' is a place of contrasts, and as such it...
| status=Guide
| time=March-June
| nominatedBy=~~~~
| comment=Great article and it's just luvvly-jubbly in the springtime.
| DotMImage=[[File:Destinationimage.jpg|thumb|300px]]
}}

Add a nomination to the end of the appropriate section.

Discuss[edit]

You can comment on any nomination based on timeliness and adherence to the criteria above, just add a bullet point (*) and your signed opinion.

===[[Destination]]===
Great article and it's just luvvly-jubbly in the springtime. TravelNut 25:25, 31 Feb 2525 (EDT)
* Looks nice, but shouldn't the Do section contain more than just quilting contests? ~~~~

Please note that the following are not considered valid reasons to oppose a nomination:

  • "I don't like it." All objections have to be based on the guidelines above: poor formatting, missing information, etc. Personal opinions, dislikes, etc. do not count.
  • "Wrong time of year." Articles are supported or opposed based on their content. Timing can be worked out later.
  • "Wrong type of place." Articles are supported or opposed based on their content. Whether it's DotM or OtBP can be worked out later.

Select[edit]

If an article gets several comments in favor and none against for a week or so, it's eligible to be placed in an appropriate time-slot in the Upcoming queue. If the objections are relatively minor and are being worked on, add them to the Upcoming queue tentatively (add a question mark "?" after the article). Feel free to move the queue around or swap articles if it makes sense. If a nomination clearly does not make the grade and if the objections are not easily fixable, they go into the Slush pile.

Once a nomination has been scheduled, an appropriate banner image and text blurb must be selected. Go to Wikivoyage:Destination of the month candidates/Banners to start that discussion.

Archive[edit]

Discussions for previously selected destinations are kept in the Archive.

Upcoming[edit]

Schedule[edit]

The following queue should contain about six months' worth of upcoming destinations. Note that new DotMs are rotated in on the 1st of each month, OtBPs on the 11th and travel topics on the 21st.

Month DotM OtBP FTT
August 2021 Portland (Oregon) - pending stronger consensus to support Bergen (Germany) - pending stronger consensus to support Functionalist architecture in Finland - pending stronger consensus to support
September 2021 Ljubljana - pending fixes and stronger consensus to support Diablo Range - pending stronger consensus to support Game of Thrones tourism - pending fixes and stronger consensus to support
October 2021 Beijing/Central Dongcheng - pending fixes and stronger consensus to support Chavín de Huántar - pending stronger consensus to support Arriving in a new city - pending fixes and stronger consensus to support
November 2021 Alexandria - pending fixes (?) and stronger consensus to support Banteay Chhmar - pending fixes and stronger consensus to support Pacific War - pending fixes
December 2021 Sydney - pending fixes and stronger consensus to support Montserrat - pending fixes and stronger consensus to support Public transit in Israel - pending stronger consensus to support
January 2022 Recife - pending fixes and stronger consensus to support Mamallapuram - pending fixes and stronger consensus to support Diving the Cape Peninsula and False Bay/Percy's Hole - pending stronger consensus to support

The schedule is not cast in stone. However, any change made to the schedule should have a compelling reason behind it, and should be effected as far in advance as possible of the article's scheduled term on the Main Page. In particular, unless absolutely necessary, we discourage nominee articles from being slushed or rescheduled after DotM banners have been made for them, which usually happens 2-3 months before being featured.

Whenever a guide becomes a current feature, it should be removed from the list, the discussion archived, and (when changing out Featured Travel Topics) a new month added to the end of the queue.

Next changes[edit]

Decisions regarding which images to use as the banners are made at Wikivoyage:Destination of the month candidates/Banners.

The section below provides an opportunity to see what the upcoming featured articles will look like on the Main Page using the banners that are currently most popular on the above page.


Updating[edit]

On the date of the scheduled change, the DotM, OtBP, or FTT should be changed as close to midnight UTC as possible. When the featured page is changed, please follow the following procedures to do so and archive content to the appropriate pages. At each stage, please double-check that you are correctly moving content.

  1. Update the featured articles on the main page by replacing the current 'banner' template section with those of the appropriate banner for the new DotM/OtBP/FTT found in the Next change section above.
  2. Update the Photo credits page with the banner's original image, title and attribution.
  3. Add the former featured article to the appropriate archive page: Previous Destinations of the month, Previously Off the beaten path, or Previous Featured travel topics.
  4. Remove Template:Featurenomination from newly featured article.
  5. For the former featured article, add the appropriate parameter to the pagebanner template (directly after the image filename) to label the page as having been featured previously.
    • For former DotMs, add: |dotm=yes
    • For former OtBPs, add: |otbp=yes
    • For former FTTs, add: |ftt=yes
  6. Archive the newly featured article's nomination. Simply cut-and-paste the nomination section of the newly featured article from this page to Wikivoyage:Destination of the Month candidates/Archive.
  7. Update the Next change section above by adding the banner from the discussion page. View the table in the Schedule section above to determine what next month's change will be, then update the image and blurb in the "Next change" section with that found in the upcoming featured article's nomination.
  8. Archive the newly featured article's banner by cutting-and-pasting all banner suggestions and the associated discussion into Wikivoyage:Destination of the month candidates/Banners/Archive.

Nominations for Destination of the Month[edit]

Portland (Oregon)[edit]

Place: Portland (Oregon)
Blurb: Once a down-at-the-heels seaport town, now one of America's trendiest cities of the moment; in the "City of Roses" the accent is on sustainability and a certain self-conscious quirkiness. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: northern summer
Nominated by: Yvwv (talk) 13:11, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
Comment: Slushed in 2010, but has grown a lot since then. Has all the essentials of a city article.

Nomination
MAX and bus side-by-side on Portland Mall, 5th & Yamhill.jpg
  • Not yet — at a first glance it looks like a solid article, but some listings lack description (most notably in the Sleep section). The article has a huge number of Eat listings (83!). Yes, some of them are local chains with several restaurants but still... ϒpsilon (talk) 15:49, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
  • If being complete means adding even more length and listings to an already overlong and over-listy article, as Ypsilon said (and I agree with him), then the answer is that Portland needs to be districtified first. -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 15:52, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
Interestingly, districtification has already been discussed three times on Talk:Portland (Oregon). ϒpsilon (talk) 13:39, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

Slush?[edit]

Between this nomination and Talk:Portland (Oregon) (and just look at the article itself!), there's a strong indication that this article ought to be districtified before it's put on the Main Page. That's a formidable task that, in the nearly five months since it's been nominated, no one has bothered to get started on. Also, the nominee doesn't currently have any Support votes to go on the Main Page as is. Are we going to get moving on this or should Portland be slushed? -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 05:23, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

Agree, let's slush for now.--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 10:56, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
As discussed, Portland needs to be districtified. It shouldn't be to difficult to divide the city into a couple of districts, for example per the suggestion in Talk:Portland_(Oregon)#Districtification.
But as the schedule is full for the warm months of 2019, Portland is either going to sit around for 1+ year or something from the schedule will have to give up its place. -- ϒψιλον (talk) 11:54, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
Ypsi - Now that you mention it, I do remember the districtification of Riga ahead of its term of DotM took much less time than I'd expected. But the question is: given all the other work that needs to be done, on other DotM candidates and elsewhere on the site, is anyone actually going to take on this project? We have enough DotM candidates, and enough Guide-level articles especially among U.S. destinations, that it would be no big deal if we slushed Portland, not to mention that it was nominated too late to make the summer 2019 schedule anyway. I'd say let's revisit this issue in three months and see if any progress has been made in the interim. What do you (and others) think about that? -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 16:06, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
I've never used more than a few days to districtify a city. Usually it does just take a couple of hours to move the listings, once the district division and borders have been decided. Then the main article needs some more content in sections that formerly had listings, district articles need some info in Understand and Get in (a look at the city's map and public transport network map is often enough), and then a district map needs to be created.
I could help out with districtifying Portland, but it will have to wait a while; other WV projects (yup, also DotM related :)) have priority. -- ϒψιλον (talk) 18:49, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
Portland is now districtified. -- ϒψιλον (talk) 19:44, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
  • Borderline between support and not yet. I find it hard to make up my mind here. The eat section, for example, is much to long, and therefore is like a yellow pages guide and not a travel guide. Otherwise, however, it looks like a reasonably good article. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 23:26, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

Districts[edit]

Regarding the fact that, as Ypsilon says, it's now districtified, I have a couple thoughts:

  1. I think it would make sense for Portland to be moved to Portland and for the disambiguation page to moved to Portland (disambiguation).
  2. Good news about the districtification! The district articles look good, although perhaps they could do with some more general information. (For example, none of them have an "understand" section.)
  3. In the "districts" section of the main article, there definitely ought to be a description of each of the districts, so travelers can know a little about each district before visiting their respective pages.

--Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 00:56, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

Better to have that discussion in Talk:Portland_(Oregon)#Districtification_for_DotM, there indeed are still some things both the main Portland article and the district articles need. ϒψιλον (talk) 05:10, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
  • I think the "See" section needs some links to the districts. The "Do" section should mention/list the major city festivals/events. The districts should only give a listing to ONE of the chain restaurants. Portland (Oregon)/Eastside's Eat section looks sloppy with half of the listings being the same restaurants. The "Connect" section in the districts should have content or be deleted. ChubbyWimbus (talk) 03:04, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

May 2020[edit]

The city ensemble (the main article and three districts) still need work, but it's largely down to the districts that this is the case. If someone is willing to step up and do the following before the projected August slot, I'll support:

  • The district list should have a couple of lines of description for each of the three districts, including mentioning where to find Downtown.
  • There's a disconnect between the districts we've decided to use and the 'Neighborhoods' list in 'See'; can the gap be bridged?
  • The district articles themselves are little more than repositories for listings. In particular:
  • no 'Understand' section, indeed no information about the districts as places at all;
  • very poor 'Get in' that are only slightly useful if you are arriving from out of town by one particular mode of transport, but not if you want to get from say the Southwest to the East.
  • no 'Get around', even though the East in itself is as big as a large city.

On the positive side, the main article is very well-written and the vast majority of the district listings are of the expected high standard.--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 13:37, 9 May 2020 (UTC)

I for one plan to put down some effort into the article(s) in the coming months. Ypsilon (talk) 13:50, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
If you think you can take care of everything listed above, then I can support the nomination.--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 22:50, 9 May 2020 (UTC)

Riots[edit]

Riots and violence has been ongoing in Portland for over a month. Insurrectionists are trying to burn down the federal courthouse. Are we okay with featuring the city in the midst of such turmoil? ChubbyWimbus (talk) 11:01, 21 July 2020 (UTC)

As long as the article gets updated to reflect this, I don't see why not. Very few people will be visiting in the month it's featured anyway.--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 11:51, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
I have a friend in Portland who's been posting about this on Facebook. She says the protestors are largely peaceful, the federal government crackdown has been brutal, but the whole thing is happening in a small area of the city. —Granger (talk · contribs) 11:53, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
Let's leave aside the question of when people will be visiting, what geographical percentage of the city is affected, and what the danger is to visitors and look at it from the point of view of how tone-deaf it looks for Wikivoyage to be foregrounding an article about traveling to Portland during 1) a global pandemic, specifically one in which the U.S. is one of the few countries that doesn't have the outbreak under any semblance of control and 2) a time in history when federal agents are snatching people from the streets with impunity. It's not as if our readers don't read the news. Frankly, I think it's hard enough to argue against slushing any and all U.S. nominees (we ought to be thanking our lucky stars there are only two besides Portland on the docket between now and January 20, 2021); I'm amazed anyone is even trying to defend this particular one. -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 20:39, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
If its month to be featured was September, I'd say let's wait and see. But frankly, right now, in addition to what you all are posting about, anyone from a foreign country who chooses to visit the U.S. is crazy. So yeah, let's put this feature on ice and return to it in more normal times. Ikan Kekek (talk) 20:56, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
Speaking of U.S. destinations, perhaps NSB should be postponed to January and Torres del Paine moved to December? There will likely still be concerns in December, but hopefully if we have a vaccine (?) and declining cases by mid-January, there will at least be a chance of it going on the main page during a time when tourists are considering visiting. (As a note, tourism is high in NSB right now, but that's travel within the U.S., not foreign countries. I don't know why people are traveling long-distance across the country right now.) We can always postpone NSB until next summer if the coronavirus is still widespread in January. Portland could be postponed at least a few months and instead choose locations without large numbers of coronavirus cases, not only due to the risks of the virus itself but also due to the concerns associated with visiting a country/state in lockdown right now.
The cases won't go down quickly, and I don't see them dropping to "safe" levels until next year, if not later, and until then we ought to focus on foreign destinations. Even Europe probably had best be avoided this summer IMO. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 21:03, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
(edit conflict) We can always wait and watch, but I would definitely recommend to anyone to stay away from the U.S. until at least January, and that's even without considering the extent to which the U.S. is the center of the COVID plague now. Florida is a total disaster at the moment, but we can't be sure what it'll be like in December. Ikan Kekek (talk) 21:11, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
Cases in the northeast of the state are relatively low currently, and we'll soon see how much difference the new mask mandates make; probably not enough. The situation is most of control in the Miami area, and some other cities to a lesser extent, and minorities seem to have suffered the highest number of cases. Parts of the state probably won't be back to normal until next summer, unless cases drop suddenly like they did in New York City. But as you've said, we can't know for sure, but judging from other countries such those in Europe it takes months for the virus to reduce to low levels, and in those countries there were strict lockdowns. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 21:18, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
Before we go too far down this road, let me be clear about what I do and do not actually support. I do support slushing Portland. I do not support slushing any other U.S. featured article nominees at this time, and am unlikely to change my mind in that regard unless, like Portland, there emerge safety concerns over and above COVID. What I meant by my comments about "it's hard enough to argue against slushing any and all U.S. nominees" was that I think at this point it's possible to construct a valid argument in opposition to mine. If we had been having this conversation a few months ago, I would have dismissed any such concerns out of hand. -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 00:50, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
To SelfieCity's point, I would note that cases in Europe, Australia, and some other countries are on the rise again. Personally, I think countries that have convinced themselves that they've somehow "beaten the virus" just because they've brought cases within their jurisdictions down to zero are only fooling themselves; unless they plan on hermetically sealing their borders for years on end and/or unless science develops a COVID test with a 100% accuracy rate that can be given to people at customs, it's only a matter of time before the virus seeps back in again. Realistically, nowhere is safe for travel until there is a vaccine (actually, if you want to get technical about it, it could be argued that nowhere ever was or ever will be "safe for travel") and engaging in travel for the foreseeable future will inherently involve acceptance of a certain risk, which makes the question of what should and shouldn't be on the Main Page a bit more complicated and nuanced than "no U.S." -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 21:40, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
No featured article should be interpreted as us saying this place is safe to travel in the middle of a pandemic. As Andre says, no place is really safe unless the few countries where it has been eliminated in the first wave create a bubble among themselves. For example, New Zealand, Taiwan and a few Pacific Islands could open up with each other and shut out everyone else but it won't quite happen in practice. Citizens from other countries are allowed to return home and if one of them breaks quarantine, the fire is reignited. Gizza (roam) 01:15, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
The theory is that when somebody breaks the quarantine or comes in without, the contacts will have been few enough that they can be traced and the affected persons quarantined. If this happens seldom enough it is not an unreasonable burden. The same works with domestic cases. But this works only if contacts are few, and few random passersby infected (I hope nightclubs will have few customers). It can work, but did not in the countries were cases are getting out of hand again. --LPfi (talk) 07:16, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
It definitely did not work in Melbourne and now Australia's two most populous states. Went from single digit numbers of cases per week (no community transmission) to 400-500 a day (nearly all of it community transmission). I agree that the DotM should be a place to dream about or plan for in the future, not a suggestion to travel there now, which may not even be possible based on the rules of your home and destination country. Gizza (roam) 08:19, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
I'd say obviously not soon. The title "destination of the month" seems to suggest visiting now & we should not suggest that. Pashley (talk) 06:16, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
Hasn't it always meant "the destination featured this month", "the destination to dream about this month" etc., not the destination to (start planning to) visit this month? --LPfi (talk) 07:19, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
Yes to what LPfi said. Plus, as our special message says: "Importantly, our intention is NOT to promote the idea of actually visiting any of these places now or in the near-term future. The primary purpose of our Featured Articles is, and always has been, to highlight the hard work of our dedicated team of travel writers by presenting our readers with the best-quality articles Wikivoyage has to offer." Well what's changed, eh? If we're suddenly saying that this feature sends the wrong message, then we should at least be consistent and cancel all features for the foreseeable.
Pulling Portland at this stage doesn't seem fair to those (particularly user:Ypsilon, but also user:Anyone150 and user:Jake Oregon) who responded to feedback above and quickly implemented the needed improvements to the city and its districts. Thanks to their efforts, it's ready to be featured now, but that readiness will decay over time, necessitating further updates.--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 08:30, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
Right now commerce/life seems to be coming to normal in many places. So despite what you may of wrote to tell readers to refrain from traveling people can still travel around to take advantage of the low airfares being offered. So like traveling to more disturbed areas I would think you would put up that that pink or yellow banner on top of the article to warn travelers of what's going on there. I defer that to the main editors/moderators to do so. Anyone150 (Anyone150) 08:42, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
You could make that same argument against ever postponing any feature, but is this the first time we would have done so? Ikan Kekek (talk) 08:42, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
Quite right, I could and probably would, because it's important we don't take people's contributions for granted. I ask again what's so special about Portland that makes us suddenly change practice? --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 09:49, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
Because it's tone-deaf to feature the city while it's under attack by irregular Federal agents. Regardless of how it's rationalized, it would give the site a black eye. Ikan Kekek (talk) 09:56, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
I don't think it's taking the contributions for granted. I have no affinity towards or against Portland, and I can only speak for myself on this, but if I worked hard on an article (or even if I didn't but it was a city I really loved/cared about), I would not want its SINGULAR feature to be during a time when the city has fallen into civil unrest. The question of "how bad is it really?" is secondary to what its image is and how it is presented in the news. Left wing sources tend to focus on the federal agents' bad behaviors and right wing sources tend to focus on the bad behaviors of the rioters (the politicization is unfortunate, since both deserve focus), but no sources are making the city look like a nice place to be or visit. It's "scary" to many people, and that was not the case when the article was built up.
This is not the first time we've talked about this. We've had such discussions before. Whenever it was, I believe I made the analogy of featuring Fukushima a month after the 2011 disaster. It would have looked like a bad joke. Portland is obviously not comparable to the Fukushima disaster, but to me it still has a "bad joke" feel right now. ChubbyWimbus (talk) 11:38, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
If it's more about the optics of Wikivoyage promoting Portland on its front page than the safety of travellers, would that mean the article could just be (provisionally) shunted back in the schedule a couple of months? Run York in August and, while Tel Aviv is up in September, review the situation for a Portland feature in October? --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 13:52, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Why not post a link the Wikivoyage:COVID-19 message at the beginning of each featured article (we could postpone featured articles as well)? That would at least partially clarify the concerns mentioned above. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 13:53, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

I agree with delaying the featuring until the political situation is more stable. Regardless of whether the police or protesters are at fault, our advice to potential tourists remains the same; stay away protests or any other types of civil unrest if you're not a local. The dog2 (talk) 19:21, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
We already discussed discontinuing our features due to the COVID-19 pandemic and many people acknowledged that we can continue running them to present readers with interesting places that they may want to travel to someday (also, someone pointed out that even under normal conditions few people could just travel there right away). But obviously it would look bad to run articles articles about places when they have a particularly high infection rate, e.g. Bergamo in March or Delhi now or certain parts of the U.S. just as we wouldn't feature articles right after a major natural disaster or a terrorist attack for instance. Or during riots that have gone on for days and weeks.
For foreigners (if we'd be let in for tourism) now isn't a good time to travel to anywhere in the States excluding perhaps remote parts of Alaska. But as a third or even more of en-WV's regular editors hail from the U.S., probably the same goes for our readership. Secondly, the U.S. is geographically almost as as big as Europe so I don't think we should look at the country as one single unit that we wouldn't recommend entering or moving around anywhere in - many of our editors and readers are already there! And according to this map (presumably still reasonably up to date) the number of infections in Oregon isn't as bad as in many other parts of the country, so from a corona point of view Portland is a relatively safe place to visit, for domestic travel.
But the problem are the riots. Looking at the news Portland seems like a minor war zone right now, and one would rather put a caution or warningbox in the article rather than featuring it. So it would not be appropriate to run it today and very probably not on 1 August, in a little more than a week. Not so sure if the article would have to be slushed right away; couldn't it first be moved forward in the schedule (still OK to visit in October?), and if the rioting or other problems persists then we could slush it. It can always be renominated and brought up to date later, say, in 2021 or 2022. --Ypsilon (talk) 19:22, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
I think that's reasonable. We can move it to a later month and if the situation persists or worsens, we can discuss slushing it at that time. ChubbyWimbus (talk) 01:45, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
I think that's OK, too. Ikan Kekek (talk) 01:58, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
So... should we move Portland a month or two forward in the schedule and feature York in August instead? Ypsilon (talk) 19:19, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
Yes Done --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 21:05, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
Thanks, I just changed the banner in the upcoming section. One more thing, if we don't want two American articles on the Main Page at the same time (maybe doesn't matter too much in this situation?), Scuba diving and Buffalo-Pittsburgh Highway could switch places in the schedule. What do you think, Andre? --Ypsilon (talk) 09:38, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
We need to remember the reason why we've decided not to feature Portland next month in the first place: not because we feel the protests pose any grave danger to travellers (at least those with any common sense) but because of the perception among our readers. Given that, I think it's obvious that Portland should be delayed until next year at the earliest. The riots may be over by October, but they'll still be fresh in the public's mind. The awkwardness needs more than three months to dissipate. Buffalo-Pittsburgh Highway was intentionally scheduled to take advantage of peak autumn foliage in the northeastern U.S. and needs to stay in the slot it currently occupies. -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 13:02, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
Noted, but let's see whether you're right about public perceptions nearer the time.--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 13:08, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

Ljubljana[edit]

Place: Ljubljana
Blurb: It's a pleasure to just stroll around in Slovenia's little capital with a lot of greenery and smaller attractions. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: September 2021? Otherwise May-Sep
Nominated by: Ypsilon (talk) 14:37, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
Comment: Time to add something to the DotM section again, why not something from another European country from which no article has been featured before. Ljubljana has guide status and has plenty of content but still needs some polishing. Hardly any listings below Do have coordinates, closed places should be deleted and some photos need to be moved around, right-aligned and enlarged.

Nomination
Ljubljanica 01.jpg


  • Needs some work. Ypsilon (talk) 14:37, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
  • Needs more work It's not so clear to me. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | en.wikipedia) 01:18, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Not yet - I don't know Ljubljana at all, but have noticed that there isn't any mention (other than a photo) of the city's cathedral. What else might be missing? Photo alignment issue is fixed.--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 14:34, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Almost I visited Ljubljana in 1997, and the sights I saw then are covered! I have added the cathedral and several other churches with have WP articles, and generally coss-checked with English WP articles. Eat, sleep and drink need to be checked - almost none of the listings have dates and so aren't recent. AlasdairW (talk) 22:43, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
Comment why was this nominated by Ypsilon when he knew this needs more work? SHB2000 (talk | contribs | en.wikipedia) 23:27, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
Because I wasn't sure exactly how the schedule for 2021 would look like (articles nominated for late Northern Hemisphere summer months sometimes will sit around until next summer) and it's better to update an article closer to the time it's featured - if you do this for example two years before, there's a greater risk that things have changed, businesses closed etc. Will have a look at Ljubljana later on when I'm done with Winnipeg and a few other articles. Ypsilon (talk) 05:12, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
I see. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | en.wikipedia) 05:14, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Not yet. Listings with missing coordinates are a hinderance to gaining my support. Not for nothing we have categories to identify articles that have See/Buy/Eat/Drink/Sleep listings with no coordinates. --Nelson Ricardo (talk) 02:19, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Support but needs work: for me the main problem is lack of date stamps, so there's no knowing how current are the entries. Grahamsands (talk) 13:31, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Not yet per others. The "Drink" section needs a lot of work. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 19:34, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment I and User:Grahamsands have improved the article as of lately. --Ypsilon (talk) 11:44, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Support following upgrade of the article to main page standards. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 22:33, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

Beijing/Central Dongcheng[edit]

Place: Beijing/Central Dongcheng
Blurb: From Tiananmen Square to Wangfujing street, much that draws visitors to Beijing can be found in Dongcheng. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: The best time to visit is in September and October, during the "Golden Autumn"
Nominated by: Ypsilon (talk) 14:37, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
Comment: And as we've got started, why not think about something to place into October's DotM slot as well. This is a nice-looking article but a few coordinates are still missing, if there are closed businesses they should be deleted, and the Connect section needs some content.

Nomination
Great Hall of the People and Monument to the People's Heros, Tiananmen Square.jpg

Alexandria[edit]

Place: Alexandria
Blurb: Egypt's window to the Mediterranean is truly a city with a history, and also famous for its seafood and long beach promenade - the Corniche. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Sep-Dec or Mar-May per the climate chart
Nominated by: Ypsilon (talk) 16:16, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
Comment: And it's time to start thinking about articles to run towards the end of the year. A while ago (OK, almost a year ago when now looking at the article history) I cleaned up and updated some articles by adding coordinates and deleting closed listings, and Alexandria was one of them.

Nomination
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  • Support as the nominator. --Ypsilon (talk) 16:16, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Support, looks great. The lede is poor, but that just needs the attention of someone who knows the city.--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 20:41, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Support, with some fixing of dead external links needed. Not far off star status and no doubt, a quality article. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 19:38, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

Sydney[edit]

Place: Sydney
Blurb: Sydney, the icon of the Southern Hemisphere. Famous for it's beaches and the iconic Harbour view and plenty of greenery. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: October-April or June
Nominated by: SHB2000 (talk) 05:58, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
Comment: Great article and it's a great way to engage travellers from all over the country and New Zealand to come and visit the city. (or even the entire world if the borders open)

Nomination
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  • Support as the nominator and resident. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | en.wikipedia) 05:59, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Almost support Extensive article, though there are a couple of things. Some districts in the district list are redlinks, and they need to be turned into articles if there are a few things that are of interest to visitors there, otherwise redirected or delinked. See and Do have "move to district" tags, this seems to have been (mostly) done but some parts – for example the beginning if See – is...rather bare-bones. Then, further down the article there are a few places where bullet points perhaps could be turned into normal text. Finally, and this is maybe more of a personal preference, some places in the article could use one or several more photos. Ypsilon (talk) 19:10, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
I will fix that. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | en.wikipedia) 23:28, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Nearly per Ypsilon. A minor issue I've noticed is that the district list and map show somewhere called "Penrith Valley" but this redirects to Sydney/Outer West, which is not on the list or map.--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 14:21, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Almost — once "move to district" issue is resolved, I will support this article's featuring. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 19:26, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

Melbourne/City Centre[edit]

Place: Melbourne/City Centre
Blurb: The urban core of Melbourne, Australia's "cultural capital", is the bustling heart of the city and jam-packed with entertainment, history, hotels, and eateries. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Good question, honestly -- Melbourne's "four seasons in one day" climate make it difficult to pick a season. Can be worked out in discussion?
Nominated by: Vaticidalprophet (talk) 09:27, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
Comment: Recently upgraded to guide, an article I've done a decent bit of work clearing out and expanding listings on lately, and one of relatively few places currently open to tourism. Plus I can't let you only nominate Sydney ;)

Nomination
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  • Support as nominator. Vaticidalprophet (talk) 09:27, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose Melbourne is not Australia's cultural capital. Sydney and Brissie have more entertainment. TravelAroundOz (talk) 10:41, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
That's perhaps a valid reason to edit the blurb, but certainly not a valid reason to oppose the nomination. -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 13:47, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
Sydneysiders have some sort of rivalry with Melbournians. TravelAroundOz (talk) 20:30, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
Be mature. This is seeming worse than the rivalry between Singapore and Kuala Lumpur. You all should stop fighting about this stuff, or at least take it outside Wikivoyage. Ikan Kekek (talk) 09:03, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
  • Almost - needs some more photos and geocoordinates. Secondly, as Andre said, this is indeed not a reason to oppose a nomination (see above), moreover this will sit around for quite a while as we won't be running two DotM articles from the same country too close to each other. Ypsilon (talk) 14:38, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
  • Almost A spot check of listings shows that some updating is required. Some See listings are just titles with no description, hours etc. It needs more photos. The banner photo is a skyline from 2005 - have there been major changes?
Melbourne says "Melbourne is the cultural capital of Australia". Leaving aside Sydney / Melbourne rivalry is this far fetched - my view from afar sees Melbourne as a major cultural city? There will have to be a gap of a year or more between featuring Sydney and Melbourne. AlasdairW (talk) 22:20, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
I'd also love to feature Brisbane, but featuring Sydney and Brisbane in the same year seems more logical than Syd and Mel. TravelAroundOz (talk) 06:01, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
The second paragraph for the Wikipedia article Culture of Melbourne begins "Traditionally acclaimed as Australia's "cultural capital"", and the 'cultural capital' line is frequently also quoted in international tourism, e.g. here, here, here. I'm surprised it's a controversial claim even to a Sydneysider -- the usual ribbing I hear is closer to "you guys are the cultural capital because you don't have the beaches or the landmarks". No major skyline changes I can think of off the top of my head, though I moved here (well after 2005) rather than growing up in the city. Vaticidalprophet (talk) 06:07, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
But times are changing. Like I don't even have to go to China to experience the culture. All here in Chinatown; does Melbourne have that? The answer is no. And Yplipson, Sydney and Melbourne aren't close. TravelAroundOz (talk) 11:36, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
"Like I don't even have to go to China to experience the culture. All here in Chinatown; does Melbourne have that? The answer is no." ??? Vaticidalprophet (talk) 03:47, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
As a Sydneysider, it is fair to call Melbourne the cultural (arts and events) capital. It is definitely the sporting capital. "Entertainment capital" is somewhat broader and may be challenged by other Australian cities. It can be fun to have rivalries but it shouldn't bias your thinking. Gizza (roam) 09:50, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
  • @Ypsilon:, @AlasdairW: Every listing now has geocoordinates, except this one random coffee shop where for some reason any attempt to google the coordinates spits out something insane in the middle of the ocean -- hopefully that one won't hold it back. I'll see what I can do about photos next time I swing out that way, but I can't guarantee anything usable. Vaticidalprophet (talk) 12:41, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
@Vaticidalprophet: I've fixed that lat and long.--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 13:10, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
Also, I've cleared out a lot of closed listings, but I haven't checked everything in the article (it's a big article!). My checks were also disproportionately the stuff without coordinates (so I could get them), so some closed businesses with them may have slipped under the radar, though I cleared out a few of those too. Vaticidalprophet (talk) 12:44, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Support SHB2000 (talk | contribs | en.wikipedia) 02:29, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

Recife[edit]

Place: Recife
Blurb: There are many sides to Recife, the city is steeped in colonial history but famed for its urban beaches too. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Oct-Jan
Nominated by: Ypsilon (talk) 11:06, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
Comment: Time to add more suggestions for late 2021/early 2022. Recife has been a guide article since Wikitravel times so it's about time to feature it. Listings of places apparently not anymore in business were deleted by me a while ago (and others including Ibaman and Lazarus1255 have also worked extensively on the article over the last year). Some listings still lack a description but otherwise it's a solid article I think.

Nomination
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Mui Ne[edit]

Place: Mui Ne
Blurb: Does seafood, kitesurfing and different sanddunes sound like great ingredients for a beach holiday? Head to this Vietnamese resort town to experience them! (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Dec-Apr
Nominated by: Ypsilon (talk) 11:06, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
Comment: Another article from Vietnam which was already at guide status, and I've deleted outdated listings and arranged content to make it more compliant with the MoS (of course I added more photos too!). Mui Ne could probably be featured as either DotM or OtBP, but as this apparently is a part of a "dense resort area" of "over two hundred beach resorts and hotels" and other wikivoyagers in case of doubt usually prefer to run articles as DotM, I picked the former.

Nomination
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Seville[edit]

Place: Seville
Blurb: In the city of flamenco you can find many things Spain is famous for; architecture from many eras, tapas, events and nightlife! (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Spring or fall probably, winter might be a bit chilly but summer is insanely hot
Nominated by: Ypsilon (talk) 18:00, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
Comment: There's been a while since I last posted a nomination for DotM, so here comes Seville. Articles at guide status that have so big issues they should almost be demoted, I usually clean up, expand and update before even thinking about nominating them. Now Seville isn't that bad but it does need a bit more info in Understand and Drink, Eat needs price categories and in all sections there are a few listings without coordinates. Things that could be taken care of closer to the time it's featured (just like with Ljubljana which I plan to start working on possibly already this weekend). Seville was nominated & slushed 11 years ago, but those issues (more pics, "suffers greatly from lack of proper formatting", info in See and Do that should be in Get around) have been largely resolved.

Nomination
Plaza Virgen de los Reyes, Seville, Spain - Sep 2009.jpg

Venice[edit]

Place: Venice
Blurb: Venice was the cradle of the Italian Renaissance. Canal boats are used to get around the city, which has plenty of merchant palaces and other decorated buildings. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Spring or autumn
Nominated by: Yvwv (talk) 21:37, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
Comment: Well-known destination that has yet to be featured. Slushed in 2018, but has improved a lot since then.

Nomination
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  • Close though the article is in a better shape than the last time it was nominated. Issues with the article are: listings without descriptions (for example churches in See, (provided they're all notable enough to be included)), listings without coordinates, and there are some parts of the article that could use more photos. --Ypsilon (talk) 19:39, 3 July 2021 (UTC)

Nominations for Off the Beaten Path[edit]

Diablo Range[edit]

Place: Diablo Range
Blurb: California's Diablo Range, with Mount Diablo, reservoirs, and rugged terrain, but also oak trees on rolling hills, is an enjoyable destination for both serious hikers and casual tourists. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide-level extraregion (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: in preparation for early summer and autumn (perhaps a month's feature in March or September would work); however, there is no need to plan ahead long-term as there are plenty of hotels available in the region
Nominated by: --Comment by Selfie City (talk) 23:39, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
Comment: I understand this has to wait, but that's fine as long as the wildfires don't destroy it! This is a park article; however, it is not one particular park; I used that category because I did not want to make it an extraregion

Nomination
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  • I haven't looked closely enough to support or oppose yet, but it looks like it should be otbp rather than dotm. Not a famous destination, and the lead says "it rarely gets deserved attention from either tourists or locals". —Granger (talk · contribs) 01:24, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
  • The article itself looks good, maybe a photo or two could be added to some sections. As Granger just said, if the park doesn't see many visitors, we should run the article OtBP.
Another thing: in the Do section there's Henry W. Coe State Park linked, but that article is just at outline status. On the other hand, this isn't a region article and the State Park isn't categorized below this article so I'm not sure if the rule that everything below has to be at least at usable status applies here. --Ypsilon (talk) 09:43, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
  • What about the Get in section? Is there any other way of getting into the park without a car? If no public transport, then are there no bus excursions from nearby towns? Local taxi firms that can offer trips? Cycle paths or hiking trails? If it really is impossible to get there without driving yourself, then you need to be more emphatic than just "You'll want to enter the range by car." --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 12:10, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Really interesting article—kudos to User:SelfieCity for all the hard work putting it together. I have to say not yet because of some significant issues that need to be addressed.
I agree with User:ThunderingTyphoons! about the "Get in" section. Wikivoyage:Guide articles says "Not only would you not need to consult another guide, you'd really have no reason to want to: it's all here." But if I was considering a trip to the Diablo Range, my immediate thought on reading the "Get in" and "Get around" sections would be "Huh, I'd better do some more research."
I'm also not really clear on what kind of article this is. The markers on the map cover a huge area that includes several cities and parks that we have separate articles for. Should this really be a park, or would it be better as an extraregion? SelfieCity, you said "I did not want to make it an extraregion", but I don't really understand why. If it's a park article, then we need to clarify what area it covers and how it relates to the other cities and parks nearby, and it needs listings in the "Eat", "Sleep", and perhaps some other sections. —Granger (talk · contribs) 12:35, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for all the thoughts! Well, I guess I have some things to explain — here we go:
@Mx. Granger: Why I didn't make it an extraregion — extraregions are extremely limiting; see Tri-Valley. As this mountain range could be treated as one destination, but can't (?) be a region of its own, it felt that the "park" rating was suitable. Quite a few of the parks in the Diablo Range (Dublin Hills, Brushy Peak, Del Valle, Ohlone, Mission Peak, Sunol, and Vargas) are all managed by the East Bay Regional Park District. There are a few important destinations in the Diablo Range that aren't within the EBRPD, including Mount Diablo and the Pinnacles. However, these ought to be mentioned as they are two of the most, if not the most, important destinations in the range. As I see it, the Diablo Range can be treated as one.
@ThunderingTyphoons!: "Get in" — no public transport as far as I know. I know that's hard to understand, especially if you're from a country or region where public transport is the way to get around. Yes, taxis would work, but isn't that WV:Obvious. I can give taxis a mention, however.
@Ypsilon: One thing I can definitely do is add more photos. Thanks for askinga bout that.
I understand the categorization is unusual, and I'm not sure how I can explain it, but I thought that by treating this whole region as one large park, it could work. I think it does — I'm sure, however, I can work on some details in the meantime! --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 13:15, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
Just re one of the points you made, the existence of taxi companies may be obvious, but echoing Granger's comments, we shouldn't be leaving it to travellers to find out for themselves the names of those companies, how to contact them, and a ballpark cost (even if just the meter rate, or however it works).
I have a personal dislike of extraregions, except when there's no other way, so I hope you can manage to define this park's boundaries a bit clearer.--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 18:19, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
If the article is turned into an extraregion, that could mean some problems as we don't seem to have any article status policies for them and I can't remember if we've ever featured one... --Ypsilon (talk) 18:39, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
Exactly, Ypsilon. That's a major reason why I chose to make it a park article. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 18:41, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
Extraregions can be extensive—see Lake Baikal or Dead Sea (Israel and the West Bank). To me this article looks like it might be a very well developed, detailed extraregion.
Or maybe it should be a travel topic? This article doesn't cover everything about the area in question, but rather focuses on hiking and other outdoor recreation. "You can throw public transport right out" isn't true for all travellers to cities in this area, but maybe it is true for getting to the hiking trails. @SelfieCity: am I on the right track here? Or is this a park article that's very unclear about the location of the park? Or is it supposed to be some kind of superpark that includes lots of other parks and cities which have their own articles? —Granger (talk · contribs) 00:48, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
I'm fine with any category except extraregion, as an extraregion cannot have a status. Generally, due to concerns of scope, and therefore, deletion, I'm not into travel topics, but I don't take an issue with this article being made one, and I'll continue to work on it when time allows. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 00:57, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
I don't think there's any good argument why extraregions should not have article statuses or otherwise be treated differently from any other destination article. You can break down countries or states or cities in any number of different ways for Wikivoyage purposes - that's the whole reason why we discuss regionalization/districtification on article talk pages, rather than just doing it unilaterally - and just because a particular region doesn't fit into the hierarchy we've arbitrarily chosen doesn't mean it's not still a perfectly cohesive entity that's useful for travellers. I think what we ought to do is not force Diablo Range into a category where it doesn't belong just so we can say it's allowed to be OtBP, but rather to change our policy regarding extraregions to allow them to have article status and to be featured on the Main Page. -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 03:54, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
I disagree somewhat with the idea that all extraregions should have statuses. Some extraregion articles are really just disambig pages with a bit of explanation and should never be expanded. So what status do we give those? See Persian Gulf and Mediterranean Sea for such examples, and then consider how much more the Empty Quarter article could be expanded. I think what we might want to do with extraregion articles is informally agree on a status that's noted on their talk pages. Clearly, we wouldn't want to feature Persian Gulf. Ikan Kekek (talk) 04:02, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
I agree with Ikan Kekek (assuming I'm understanding you correctly). We don't need to give extraregions official statuses, but we can feature them on the main page when we have consensus that they're at an appropriate level of completeness. —Granger (talk · contribs) 13:38, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
That's a good idea. However, the text of the extraregion template may need to be adjusted. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 14:12, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
  • For now, I've made it an extraregion. We can change that, of course, in the long term, but as that's where we are the closest to consensus, I've adjusted the template at the bottom of page to the extraregion template. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 19:52, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Support as otbp. Thanks for clarifying the type of article. The transportation information has been improved—still has room for improvement, but I think it's good enough for featuring. Given how car-centric most of the U.S. is, I'm not surprised that public transport isn't an option. Another photo or two towards the beginning of the article wouldn't hurt. —Granger (talk · contribs) 01:16, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
Agreed, and I have no issue with this being OTBP. I've been busy lately, though less so over Christmas, so I haven't been doing doing so much work on the Diablo Range article. (I've actually been spending quite a lot of time on WP.) I hope to keep developing this Diablo Range article, however. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 18:11, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
  • In these edits, I've added information about the boundaries of the mountain range. Feel free to tell me if you think it should be expanded or clarified in some way. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 11:57, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
I've also moved the discussion to OTBP per above. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 02:30, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Perhaps it could be turned into a rural area if we decide to use that status? --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 17:49, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
I’m not sure about keeping this one on the schedule. The recent fires have burned so much of the mountain range that the information in it could be largely wrong. Fortunately most of the parks have escaped the fires, but that will quite possibly change as the fires spread. (Sycamore Grove fell victim to a fire and should perhaps be removed from the article.) --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 15:31, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
It hasn't been scheduled yet, so I'd say let's give it a month or two and see how things look. Hopefully the fires get under control soon! —Granger (talk · contribs) 16:35, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
FWIW, if the articles are going on the schedule in the order they're nominated, with appropriate distance between articles from the same country (USA) and during an appropriate month, I believe there's going to be a little over a year before Diablo Range will be featured. So there's a lot of time to see what damage the fires have done. If one is pessimistic, it also means that there's a chance for new fires (isn't there a forest fire risk around the year in much of California?). --Ypsilon (talk) 17:17, 22 August 2020 (UTC)

Brunswick (Maine)[edit]

Place: Brunswick, ME
Blurb: This little New England charmer boasts a historical setting, fine dining options, and lush countryside close at hand. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: May-Oct; but things are open year round here
Nominated by: ButteBag (talk)
Comment: I think this is pretty complete, and there was even a Commons user who had some great photographs I was able to make use of. Thanks!

Nomination
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  • Almost. Well-written article, and it seems to cover the destination well. A bunch of listings still need coordinates, but other than that it looks good to me. —Granger (talk · contribs) 00:36, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
  • Close - Overall this is a good article for a small town but listings from Do onward need coordinates, there are places in Drink that are just mentioned but should be listingfied and finally a few Sleep listings lack descriptions. --Ypsilon (talk) 19:01, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
  • Almost per others. ButteBag, if you know the area, which I assume you do, perhaps you could make the changes we've suggested. If so, I'm sure this would make a good featured article! --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 15:45, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

Banteay Chhmar[edit]

Place: Banteay Chhmar
Blurb: Explore the remains of the Khmer Empire in a more low-key setting than at Angkor Wat, while experiencing traditional culture. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Nov-Apr
Nominated by: Ypsilon (talk) 20:09, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
Comment: Perhaps the sites and BC's history need to be expanded on a bit. Other than that this is seemingly a quiet little village with one village organization taking care of everything from guided tours to hotels and meals, so probably not much to add when it comes to services.

Nomination
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  • Very close per comment. --Ypsilon (talk) 20:09, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Close. The lengthy “get in” section is a bonus for a somewhat remote destination. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 21:46, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

Montserrat[edit]

Place: Montserrat
Blurb: Once another place to enjoy the sun and sea, the 1995 volcanic eruption turned this island into a quite different Caribbean destination. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: maybe Dec-May to avoid the hurricane season
Nominated by: Ypsilon (talk) 19:24, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
Comment: Something from the Caribbean towards the end of the year? This is one of the informative but a bit messy articles I cleaned up and updated a year ago, maybe listings need a new update closer to when its featured but the article shouldn't have any other deficiencies.

Nomination
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  • Support as nominator. --Ypsilon (talk) 19:24, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Support, of course. Do seems a little sparse, with no listings; it may be that there's nothing else worth saying, given that only half the island is accessible and much of the traditional tourist interest is inside the exclusion zone, but it could be worth checking.--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 20:20, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Very close. A couple listings could do with more detail and some dead links need to be fixed/removed. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 21:53, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

Mamallapuram[edit]

Place: Mamallapuram
Blurb: This world heritage town is all about stone carvings - and it's a place to learn the craft if you're interested. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Weatherwise Jan-Apr, driest time of the year and warm but not too hot
Nominated by: Ypsilon (talk) 20:12, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
Comment: Every now and then we've featured Indian articles, but for a OtBP feature we have to look back as far as early 2013. Unfortunately many articles from there tend to be made up of long lists of stuff, but this one seemed to have more descriptions. A year ago I went through the article adding coordinates and deleting places that were out of business, could perhaps use a new checkthrough closer to when it's featured, likely early 2022.

Nomination
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  • Support as nominator, though a couple of listings could use a longer description (possibly it could be a good time to do that if the article per above is updated closer to when it's featured). Ypsilon (talk) 20:12, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
  • Support but it could use a bit of polishing. Pashley (talk) 11:29, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Almost per Pashley. The fact there are no "Do" listings doesn't seem good enough, in my opinion, for a featured article. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 21:52, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
  • I've done a copy-editing pass, got rid of many oddities probably introduced by Indian editors with good but not perfect English. It needs to have someone else take a look, find what I missed.
I'd have this as DotM, not OtBP. It is one of the region's main tourist draws & a World Heritage site. Pashley (talk) 02:07, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

Koror[edit]

Place: Koror
Blurb: Palau's main city is a stepping stone to good diving and a place to learn about the archipelago's history and culture (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: It's rainy around the year, but Feb-Apr seem slightly drier
Nominated by: Ypsilon (talk) 20:12, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
Comment: Yet another article I've been polishing little by little. Small tropical destinations always warm up the OtBP section in the Northern Hemisphere winter, and as you may guess Palau is another country that's not been seen on the Main Page before.

Nomination
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Chavín de Huántar[edit]

Place: Chavín de Huántar
Blurb: Explore the ancient Chavín culture and the Andean cuisine and admire great views in this little town that millenia ago was an important ceremonial site. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Apr-Nov is the dry season
Nominated by: Ypsilon (talk) 18:31, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
Comment: We didn't have any nominee that would fit into October's OtBP slot, so I translated this guide-status one from Spanish WV. Seems to be quite an interesting little town. Listings were last edited in February, at which point the Spanish article was written from scratch so everything should be up to date. There are a couple of prices from 2014 that were originally in the English article but those can be deleted if we don't want to keep them.

Nomination
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San Ignacio (Belize)[edit]

Place: San Ignacio (Belize)
Blurb: This town at the crossing of Belize's main road and rivers is surrounded by plenty of Mayan sites and neotropical jungle to explore! (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Feb-May are the driest months
Nominated by: Ypsilon (talk) 19:58, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
Comment: Another one for early 2022; it's been a while since we ran something from Central America so here's an article from that part of the world. The article was in a decent shape but a bit messy, so over the last week I've deleted listings of things that seem to be closed, brought over content from German and Italian WV (the German article has guide status) and generally cleaned up the article so it should be good to go.

Nomination
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  • Support as nominator. --Ypsilon (talk) 19:58, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Very close. The main problem with this article currently is that there are some dead links and formatting issues. But assuming you continue to work on the article, it should be OK. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 21:50, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

Bergen (Germany)[edit]

Place: Bergen (Germany)
Blurb: Best known for the nearby Nazi-era concentration camp, Bergen also has attractions related to other eras all the way back to prehistory (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: May-Sep (aiming for Aug 2021)
Nominated by: Ypsilon (talk) 18:28, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
Comment: I recently updated the listings to make this a replacement for Clausthal-Zellerfeld as August's OtBP.

Nomination
Bergen Rathaus 2.jpg
  • Support as nominator. --Ypsilon (talk) 18:28, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Support, looks great. Slightly strange formatting in 'Do', but otherwise seems ready to go. Good choice for substitute, by the way.--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 19:52, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Close — some listings, such as those in Bergen (Germany)#Do, need more information, and just "Irish pub" isn't enough in my opinion (I'm guilty of the same in articles I've written myself). --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 21:49, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
The "listings" in Do are the stopping points of a walking itinerary, half of them listed in See, and the rest perhaps aren't important enough for a listing on their own. There's not more information available on the particular pub, but it seems to be the only one left in town. A few others were listed in the article, and also visible in Openstreetmap and Google Maps but according to GM they have apparently closed down recently, almost certainly due to the pandemic. --Ypsilon (talk) 11:15, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
Fair enough. Support. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 19:46, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

Alishan[edit]

Place: Alishan
Blurb: Ride the Forest Railway up to Alishan for some beautiful views, local tea and handicrafts of the local red cypress wood. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: I guess Mar-Apr, Oct-Nov. (Northern Hemisphere) winter seems a little cool, and summer extremely wet
Nominated by: Ypsilon (talk) 17:47, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
Comment: Another suggestion for a slot next spring. Alishan was promoted to guide status in 2007, by Jani, one of the project's main contributors back then so I guess the article should be extensive enough - even if it's a short one. I've recently added some coordinates and checked that the typhoon-damaged train line is up and running again (at least to some extent). Probably a few details still need to be updated (not sure if we should have timetables in our articles as these can get outdated quickly).

Nomination
Alishan Forest Staircase2.JPG

Nominations for Featured travel topic[edit]

Arriving in a new city[edit]

Place: Arriving in a new city
Blurb: Do you often find it intimidating to arrive at a new, strange place? Here are some useful tips for you. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Any
Nominated by: Ypsilon (talk) 09:12, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
Comment: As you can see on the article talk page, I've been thinking about what to add to the article "for a little while". As there've been no more ideas, I assume the article should be ready to feature, even in its short form.

Nomination
Central hall of Beijing Railway Station (20150630110953).JPG
  • Support --Ypsilon (talk) 09:12, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Comment - I edited through the end of "Get around". So far, it's needed fairly small edits, but I'll be more comfortable with passing judgment after I've read through the entire article and edited as appropriate. So far, it seems good. Ikan Kekek (talk) 09:43, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
  • The fact that I've just added a whole new section that was an obvious omission ('Eat') tells me this one probably needs some work. It seems very short, though the advice that's already there is good.--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 16:26, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Close pending more article content, but a good start. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 19:45, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Close - per SC. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | en.wikipedia) 23:26, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

Game of Thrones tourism[edit]

Place: Game of Thrones tourism
Blurb: An exceedingly popular TV series with more Emmy awards than any other. Much of it was shot on location in places that are interesting in their own right as well as to fans. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Any
Nominated by: Pashley (talk) 11:53, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
Comment: {{{comment}}}

Nomination
Jon Snow and Ghost.jpg
Any Game of Thrones fans who'd like to comment on this one? --Ypsilon (talk) 15:40, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
  • As a casual fan, I think the article looks good overall, but there should probably be some more information about the studio tour in Belfast, ie what sets are there, what the tour involves, and practical information like timings, price, etc.--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 16:46, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
  • I'm definitely a fan & wrote parts of the article. I cannot find anything about a studio tour, but lots about tours to outdoor locations around Belfast. I just added this link. Pashley (talk) 12:18, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
There was supposed to be one opening at the Titanic Studios, but I guess it's been postponed due to the usual reasons.--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 13:34, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

Loop Art Tour[edit]

Place: Loop Art Tour
Blurb: Did you know that you can see some amazing modern art for free by taking a walk around downtown Chicago? (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Star (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Apr-Oct (from Magnificient Mile's and Bronzeville's nominations)
Nominated by: Ypsilon (talk) 14:32, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
Comment: OK, as you probably all know, I don't like having articles sitting around here for longer than necessary (also it looks like some of the already nominated articles from the U.S. will still sit around here into 2022). But there has to be two years or more between articles from the same city, an article from Chicago was featured in April 2020, so the earliest possible slot for a Chicago article will thus be in April 2022. Now all, or almost, all districts from there are at guide or star status and could be run as DotM or OtBP, and as such Chicago together with Washington D.C. and San Francisco and perhaps some other cities, have high quality articles for DotM and OtBP for years to come.

But this is not the case when it comes to FTT; other than Peter Southwood's famous diving guides (speaking of which...in northern winter 2021-22 three years will have passed since one of those was featured, so it's time to nominated a new one soon) we don't have any other travel topics at star status - except for this one. So before a district of Chicago is nominated, I hereby nominate Loop Art Tour for FTT for some month in 2022.

As a star article, there shouldn't be anything to complain about when it comes to formatting or language. Though, a month or so before the article is featured we should check online that the artworks are still there.

Nomination
Cloud Gate at dawn.jpg
  • Support as nominator. --Ypsilon (talk) 14:33, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Almost The talk page says that one of the sculptures has been removed. It has been 8 years since any real update, and so I think it needs somebody to walk the route to confirm that everything is still there, and there are no new major attractions enroute that need a mention. The main sights should be markers, with wikidata links so the reader can find out more, or use a full page map. For an article on the main page, there should be links to relevant travel topics. AlasdairW (talk) 15:33, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
Nobody needs to walk the route, and we don't have any active Wikivoyagers in Chicago anyway. The status of the sculpture that's been removed can probably be determined by a Google search. If not, then just delete it from the itinerary. -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 17:42, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
I might be wrong, but I think user:The dog2 is in Chicago. If not, you may not need an actual person to walk it, but the internet research should be more involved than you imply, per Alasdair's suggestions. Most readers will likely assume that featured articles have been thoroughly researched, and as recently as possible.--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 18:58, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
There's also User:SewChicago, who unlike me is an actual local who was born and raised in Chicago. I'm currently based in Chicago, but I'm still a foreigner. I haven't really been going out recently thanks to the pandemic, but I'd be happy to go around a bit more after I get vaccinated. Unfortunately, I don't know when that will be. They're currently having a severe shortage of vaccine doses in Illinois, and things are just so disorganised here. It's kind of sad that what is supposed to be the best and greatest country in the history of mankind is bungling the vaccine rollout so badly, in contrast to how organised and competent the rollout has been in my native Singapore. The dog2 (talk) 19:05, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
Since the meat of the article has already been written, it shouldn't matter that you're not a native Chicagoan. But, yeah, any time later in the year that you feel safe to go out, your help would be much appreciated (and much needed, given that by the time this is featured, it'll be 10 years since it was last done). I don't expect to get the vaccine for months yet, but I am lucky enough to not be in a rush and don't envy anyone with a more urgent need. I'm just thankful that most of my older family members have all either had their first jab or have an appointment scheduled.--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 20:20, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────By the way, I noticed that the Buckingham Fountain is missing from the tour. That would add some extra time, but if you want to look at art installations in Chicago, I'd recommend it. I actually prefer it to the Crown Fountain. The dog2 (talk) 00:39, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

Support. I haven't felt motivated to vote on nominations for features during the pandemic, but this is a star article, so I have full confidence that it'll be in great condition by the time it runs. Ikan Kekek (talk) 01:22, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Support. It's a star article. Unless it's degarded since starring, it deserves to be a DotM. --Nelson Ricardo (talk) 05:20, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Support. As a star article there shouldn’t be too much to worry about regarding this one. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 18:45, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

Diving the Cape Peninsula and False Bay/Percy's Hole[edit]

Place: Diving the Cape Peninsula and False Bay/Percy's Hole
Blurb: Percy's Hole is suitable for novice divers too and there's a plentitude of colourful nudibranches under water. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Star (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Oct-May, like the previous Cape peninsula diving guide
Nominated by: Ypsilon (talk) 19:03, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
Comment: Time to dive into South African waters again (last such feature was January 2019). Here's another of Peter's Star-rated dive guides and I trust that everything important is included.

Nomination
Koester at Percy's Hole DSC06939.JPG
Sorry, but I disagree. Traditionally we've had three years between the featuring of these dive guides, whereas we normally allow articles from the same city/region to be featured two years apart. I'd rather see the Cape dive guides more often on the Main Page rather than even less frequently. Ypsilon (talk) 19:50, 3 July 2021 (UTC)

Public transit in Israel[edit]

Place: Public transit in Israel
Blurb: What's Rav-Kav and how do you use it? Find the answer to this and other things useful to know to explore Israel by bus and train in this article. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Any, but we've usually featured articles from Israel during the colder half of the year in the Northern Hemisphere
Nominated by: Ypsilon (talk) 11:46, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
Comment: The article has grown over the years thanks to the contribution of many Wikivoyagers including טבעת-זרם, Danbus43Maalit72, Ar2332, Arseny1992, Hobbit, GZ and many others. So let's feature it! If something important is still missing, I'm sure someone will be able to fill in the missing info.

Nomination
Buses02.jpg
  • Support as nominator. --Ypsilon (talk) 11:46, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Support as one of the contributors. Although as noted on talk and in a couple of edit summaries, zone maps (fares for mobile app ticketing first distance level, area zoning for Rav-Kav 90-minute transfers, area zoning for Rav-Kav periodic passes) could be embedded on-wiki, but I haven't figured how to properly use map tools. --Arseny1992 (talk) 12:43, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Almost It is a very good article, but as somebody who hasn't been to Israel, I think there are slight gaps. The ticketing system is very usefully covered in great detail, but there less on the actual buses and trains. I am likely to go on a clean 5 year old bus, or a 25 year old grubby one with fraying seat covers? Can buses and trains be reserved, and if so how long in advance? - elsewhere I have found long distance buses fully booked two weeks in advance. How much of the country is served by buses - are there rural areas which are poorly served - maybe a map of the bus network would show this. AlasdairW (talk) 22:26, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
I thought it would be on par of WV:OBVIOUS that a modern developed country to have a modern transit fleet, and the guide images have some of these: so you will be on a relatively clean few years old bus (such as the Tel Aviv bus image). The Eilat section has the information on seat reservations and it is pretty much almost the only route where reservations are possible. Trains can not be reserved: if compared to Europe, it works more as a suburban short-distance network rather than long-distance railways, although due to the pandemic they temporarily added "station entry reservations" (pandemic infobox on Israel) which are not compulsory to obtain online with identification and can be "obtained" anonymously at station entrances by saying your destination to the entrance guards - you will be allowed into a station if your train departs in the next 15 minutes. So it is not actually a train reservation but means to prevent crowding and enforce social distancing on stations, and these temporary means aren't going to stay after the pandemic. A map of the bus network is irrelevant because routes can change and such a map would become outdated and face the issues of a "route list" that the guide had a few years ago, therefore it is best to use the information provided in the Understand section. --Arseny1992 (talk) 23:12, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
The U.S. does not have a modern and clean public transit fleet. Hobbitschuster (talk) 17:42, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

Pacific War[edit]

Place: Pacific War
Blurb: The Pacific War was the largest theatre of World War II, fought across seas and jungles with more destructive weapons than any war before. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Usable (deserves a higher grade)Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Preferrably northern winter, as Southeast Asia is rainy during northern summer. We could aim for Nov-Dec 2021; the 80th anniversary of the Pearl Harbor attack.
Nominated by: Yvwv (talk) 22:49, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
Comment: A lengthy article with a wide geographic scope.

Nomination
Raising the Flag on Iwo Jima, larger - edit1.jpg


  • Support - needs a lot more photos, and a more international Respect section, but the important stuff is already there.--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 07:58, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Support - except map needs to have Pacific in the middle and more photos please. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | en.wikipedia) 10:48, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
Have just tried that, and it doesn't work. You can centre it on the Pacific, but then all the markers are to the right.--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 10:57, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
the osm layouts aren't great SHB2000 (talk | contribs | en.wikipedia) 11:00, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Very close more photos! And if an article looks so good that you would like to nominate it for the Main Page (which I do think this one is), consider updating its status to guide first. --Ypsilon (talk) 17:19, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
Support - pics added and guide status. --Ypsilon (talk) 17:23, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

Presidents of the United States[edit]

Place: Presidents of the United States
Blurb: The Presidents of the United States have shaped their country and the world, and left behind a legacy of museums, monuments and other destinations. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Usable (deserves a higher grade) (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Any. Can be considered for Jan-Feb, with Biden's first State of the Union Address expected in late January, and Washington's birthday on 21 Feb.
Nominated by: Yvwv (talk) 21:19, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
Comment: An expansive article. There seems to be consensus on controversial pieces, such as the description of each President.

Nomination
Mount Rushmore detail view (100MP).jpg


  • We should be aware that this article was started by a user who is now banned; however, users in good standing have done lots of work on it. I'll look it over later and see whether I think it should be featured, but based on my feelings about it the last time I read it, I would think so. Ikan Kekek (talk) 00:11, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Not yet - the article should have guide status and if there are still any controversies related to the article's content they need to be resolved first. Ps. When I first saw the article I was thinking that this could be suitable to feature during the United States Semiquincentennial in 2026 or otherwise around the 4th of July (ie. in June's FTT slot). --Ypsilon (talk) 09:37, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
One month later, there's a debate on the talk page about the rules concerning how to edit the article... Let's throw the nomination on the slush pile and perhaps reconsider nominating it after a year or two at earliest. --Ypsilon (talk) 17:03, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
  • No - it needs to be nuked, per Ikan. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | en.wikipedia) 09:53, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment — I don't work on this article as much as most do, but I'm a little confused as to why it's not ready for guide status. Three years of focused collaboration have taken place, and there's already a talk page archive and likely one or two more in order. As for the article itself, a few listings don't have descriptions, but most do. Is it ready for guide status? --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 18:21, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment — This seems to be a mess of properties which are only listed because Donald Trump's "Trump Organization" has its branding on them. That's hardly fair, unless there's some historical reason (other than "Trump owns them") for them to be on this list. We don't tout one innkeeper over another, unless it serves the traveler.

RMS Titanic[edit]

Place: RMS Titanic
Blurb: On both shores of the Atlantic there are many fascinating sites related to possibly the most famous shipwreck of all time (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: FTT slot of March 2022 to have it on the main page in early April for the 110th anniversaries of the maiden voyage and sinking of the ship
Nominated by: Ypsilon (talk) 20:46, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
Comment: One more travel topic of the historical kind. I made some small fixes to the article and promoted it to guide a few months year ago with the intention to nominate it for FTT

Nomination
White Star Line.JPG

Functionalist architecture in Finland[edit]

Place: Functionalist architecture in Finland
Blurb: Functionalism became a popular style among Finnish architects a century ago and the country is one of the best destinations to admire these simple, streamlined and often white buildings. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Any, really. May-Sep would be weather-wise the best time to visit, suggesting for Aug 2021
Nominated by: Ypsilon (talk) 18:01, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
Comment: Maybe we could showcase our readers some architecture in August instead?

Nomination
Lasipalatsi 2018.jpg
  • Support as nominator and biased main author of the article. --Ypsilon (talk) 18:02, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Support once dead links are fixed. This is an excellent article with the ideal amount of content for a main page feature. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 21:59, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Very close; As this article would be the third Nordic FTT this year (and there have been concerns about the high ratio of Nordic articles) it should be top notch. Fix dead links, expand the understand section (historical context, physical features, representative construction elements, etc) and brief descriptions of representative cities such as Tampere. /Yvwv (talk) 22:16, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
Yes, it's the third Nordic FTT, but also the third overall Nordic feature this year and over the last couple of years we've actually had slightly fever Nordic features than average (4 in 2015, 2 each in 2016-17, 3 in 2018, 1 in 2019 and 2 in 2020). The Understand section could perhaps be expanded but we need to make sure the content doesn't stray too far from the topic. --Ypsilon (talk) 17:14, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment: I just copy edited through the end of the first paragraph of "Background". This article will need to be completely proofread and copy edited before it's run. I think it probably has a lot of directly translated Finnish or Swedish syntax and usage. Ikan Kekek (talk) 23:23, 3 July 2021 (UTC)

Tourist Drive 33[edit]

Place: Tourist Drive 33
Blurb: Tourist Drive 33 is one of Australia's oldest roads, still used today built by convicts. It's either the views, access, wineries, the length and variety of environments or their historical significance pale in comparison that makes it unique. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: All year around but preferably Autumn or Spring (in Australian seasons)
Nominated by: SHB2000 (talk | contribs | en.wikipedia) 23:37, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
Comment: Maybe showcase it in Autumn or Spring since that's when people camp a lot more often.

Nomination
Convict-built embankment, Great North Road, NSW.jpg


  • I moved the nomination back here, because DotM and OtBP features are for destinations whereas FTT are for all other kinds of articles. Overall this seems like an informative article, but there are some things that make me say just almost support now. Some points need a description, a few also need a marker/coordinates (eg the galleries next to the fire trucks). Left-alignment of photos and maps are, per Wikivoyage:Image_policy#Image_alignment, a thing we try to avoid unlike at Wikipedia, and it would be nice to have some photos in the last third of the article. As we try to keep some distance between articles from the same part of the world, and Sydney goes on the Main Page in December 2021 (Melbourne/City Centre probably in March 2022), a slot during Sep-Nov 2022 could probably be the time showcase this article. --Ypsilon (talk) 16:36, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

Sinhala phrasebook[edit]

Place: Sinhala phrasebook
Blurb: Whether you plan to visit Sri Lanka someday or want to enjoy a little piece of the country's culture - a few phrases in Sinhala - today; check out this phrasebook! (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Any
Nominated by: Ypsilon (talk) 19:12, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
Comment: Sometime in the first months of every year we've traditionally featured a phrasebook as FTT - how about a language with a different script this time? I just added photos to the article and the only issue I can see with the article is that it has a pretty extensive grammar section for a travel phrasebook which we can keep or trim down.

Nomination
Fort, Galle 80000, Sri Lanka - panoramio (101).jpg
  • Support --Ypsilon (talk) 19:12, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Support this amazing phrasebook. Whoever wrote it deserves several hearty slaps on the back.--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 21:11, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment I immediately see an issue: I don't think there's an "a" as in the way I pronounce "bad". I'll broach these questions on the phrasebook's talk page. Ikan Kekek (talk) 00:45, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Support. I'm confident that the issue I brought up will be resolved satisfactorily. I unfortunately had to remove a New Year's image because it has a watermark on it. In terms of the grammar section, I think some parts of it are too detailed, but I'd rather leave it alone than delete too much of it. Ikan Kekek (talk) 01:04, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Support I'll hopefully find a better image lying somewhere in my house. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | en.wikipedia) 01:12, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Support per others. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 18:15, 1 July 2021 (UTC)