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Add names of account owners to this page
I think User:AndreCarrotflower and User:Nicholasjf21 are the two people currently operating our social media accounts, but I'm not actually sure whether that's true or complete. I think it's important to include contact information for the account owners somewhere, so could someone who knows who the admins are update either the "Overview" or "How to get involved" sections with a list of the people who operate these accounts? It would be nice to expand our presence on social media to try and attract new readers/editors, but I think the first step might be identifying who is currently in charge of those accounts. -- Ryan • (talk) • 20:41, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
- User:JamesA has been fairly active on our Facebook page as well - not so much lately, but at least as recently and as often as Nicholasjf21. I believe User:Saqib helms our Twitter feed. -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 21:02, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
- Hello Ryan and Andre. Actually yes, thats me. I've been maintaining the Twitter handle since June I guess. Unfortunately we don't have much audience (followers) on Twitter and Facebook and we really need to increase that somehow if we want to have attract new readers/editors through social media. --Saqib (talk) 21:19, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks, I've updated the "Overview" section to note which user(s) are maintaining the accounts, which should provide enough contact information for anyone wanting to get involved. On a related note, I could help out with the Facebook page if desired - I've been thinking that it might make sense to use our Discover section as a source for additional posts, if there is interest. -- Ryan • (talk) • 21:27, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
- Definately. I've been tweeting discover sectins facts but abondoned it due to lack of time. Will resume it on Twitter at some point soon. --Saqib (talk) 21:31, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
- Should we mention social media accounts in other languages? The page may get confusing with too many accounts. --Saqib (talk) 22:31, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
- Saqib, why you have remove the other languages? It's an information shown by every language that is useful to keep. PS I hanven't revert your change because I prefer to discuss it here. --Andyrom75 (talk) 22:42, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
- Andy sahib, This is English language Wikivoyage and I'm not expecting someone to look for social media accounts in Italian or German language here. If one looking for social media account in language other than English, they should be looking at the relevant language version of Wikivoyage and you guys have page where you mention your social media accounts. --Saqib (talk) 22:46, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
- (BTW If you want to revert my edit, please feel free to do so. Lets have an edit war on the joyful occassion of Wikivoyage birthday!) --Saqib (talk) 22:50, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) Show those links in every wiki will facilitate more people to know about their existence, and this is more important on en:voy where most of the people is able to contribute. Which is the part of the table that get you confused? PS I have never had an edit war with anyone, and for sure I won't start with you ;-) --Andyrom75 (talk) 22:55, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
- I see. Good point. Perhaps then, we'll have to create a seperate table to mention the accounts in languages other than English. I'll try to do so tomorrow but if you get some time, please do it. --Saqib (talk) 22:59, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) I'd suggest restoring the links to social media accounts in other languages, both to help promote Wikivoyage in those languages (as User:Andyrom75 has noted) and also as a potential source of ideas to use for English Wikivoyage social media accounts. However, showing the admins for those accounts strikes me as too much detail since 1) that info is likely to get out of date since it's for other projects, 2) the purpose of this page is to discuss the English Wikivoyage social media presence, and 3) someone wishing to get involved with social media in another Wikivoyage language version should go to the corresponding project for guidance. -- Ryan • (talk) • 23:03, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) Ok Saqib, if you prefer two separate tables, I'll create here a draft of them. Give me few minutes. PS As Ryan I'm in doubt too regarding the admin info. --Andyrom75 (talk) 23:06, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
- Agree with Ryan's point. Ryan's version restored. It reminded me of one saying in Punjabi languages which translates something like "Where there is ..., there comes …." --Saqib (talk) 23:11, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) Ok Saqib, if you prefer two separate tables, I'll create here a draft of them. Give me few minutes. PS As Ryan I'm in doubt too regarding the admin info. --Andyrom75 (talk) 23:06, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) Show those links in every wiki will facilitate more people to know about their existence, and this is more important on en:voy where most of the people is able to contribute. Which is the part of the table that get you confused? PS I have never had an edit war with anyone, and for sure I won't start with you ;-) --Andyrom75 (talk) 22:55, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
- (BTW If you want to revert my edit, please feel free to do so. Lets have an edit war on the joyful occassion of Wikivoyage birthday!) --Saqib (talk) 22:50, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
- Andy sahib, This is English language Wikivoyage and I'm not expecting someone to look for social media accounts in Italian or German language here. If one looking for social media account in language other than English, they should be looking at the relevant language version of Wikivoyage and you guys have page where you mention your social media accounts. --Saqib (talk) 22:46, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
- Saqib, why you have remove the other languages? It's an information shown by every language that is useful to keep. PS I hanven't revert your change because I prefer to discuss it here. --Andyrom75 (talk) 22:42, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
- Should we mention social media accounts in other languages? The page may get confusing with too many accounts. --Saqib (talk) 22:31, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
- Definately. I've been tweeting discover sectins facts but abondoned it due to lack of time. Will resume it on Twitter at some point soon. --Saqib (talk) 21:31, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks, I've updated the "Overview" section to note which user(s) are maintaining the accounts, which should provide enough contact information for anyone wanting to get involved. On a related note, I could help out with the Facebook page if desired - I've been thinking that it might make sense to use our Discover section as a source for additional posts, if there is interest. -- Ryan • (talk) • 21:27, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
- Hello Ryan and Andre. Actually yes, thats me. I've been maintaining the Twitter handle since June I guess. Unfortunately we don't have much audience (followers) on Twitter and Facebook and we really need to increase that somehow if we want to have attract new readers/editors through social media. --Saqib (talk) 21:19, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
Wikivoyage social network account table
Here below few layout of the table that collect all the Wikivoyage social network account in every available languages.
Please choose the one that you prefer most. PS I haven't made the Two tables without admin column version because in my opinion it doesn't make so much sense. --Andyrom75 (talk) 23:30, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
One table with admin column
Site Languages Account administrator(s) Facebook - N/A
- JamesA, AndreCarrotflower, Nicholasjf21
- N/A
- Andyrom75, Lkcl it
- N/A
- N/A
Twitter (see also) Google+ - de: Google+
- N/A
One table without admin column
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Two tables with admin column
Site Other languages Account administrator(s) Facebook Twitter (see also) - it: Twitter
Google+ - de: Google+
- N/A
- I like the version that's current live on the page (three columns with English admins), but there is a desire for a change then the "two tables with admin column" version above would be my second choice. -- Ryan • (talk) • 02:36, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
- I think the current live version is not clear regarding "who admin what", so I would change it with one of the above alternatives (other ideas are more than welcome). I'm fine with the "two tables with admin column", however IMO the admin info are not essential, so I like also the third version of "One table without admin column". --Andyrom75 (talk) 08:03, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
- See #Add names of account owners to this page - we absolutely need to provide information about the admins of the English social media platforms somewhere on the page. -- Ryan • (talk) • 15:23, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
- Ok, in this case we can use "two tables with admin column" as you said. --Andyrom75 (talk) 09:43, 17 January 2015 (UTC)
- See #Add names of account owners to this page - we absolutely need to provide information about the admins of the English social media platforms somewhere on the page. -- Ryan • (talk) • 15:23, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
- I think the current live version is not clear regarding "who admin what", so I would change it with one of the above alternatives (other ideas are more than welcome). I'm fine with the "two tables with admin column", however IMO the admin info are not essential, so I like also the third version of "One table without admin column". --Andyrom75 (talk) 08:03, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
- I created the Russian version at FB, https://www.facebook.com/ruwikivoyage . (I am so far the only admin).--Ymblanter (talk) 15:09, 17 January 2015 (UTC)
- I'm fine with two tables with admin column. Hello Ymblanter. Remember me ? Good to see you created the page and I hope you also contributing to Russian Wikivoyage. --Saqib (talk) 15:39, 17 January 2015 (UTC)
- Sure, I am one of the contributors there.--Ymblanter (talk) 15:51, 17 January 2015 (UTC)
- Ok, at this point I'll replace the current table with the one above, adding the ru:voy link. --Andyrom75 (talk) 14:41, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
- Done. Ymblanter Would you like to create a similar page on ru:voy? --Andyrom75 (talk) 14:48, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
- Yes, I will do it later this week. Thanks for adding me to the list.--Ymblanter (talk) 10:36, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
- My pleasure ;-) --Andyrom75 (talk) 16:35, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
Done--Ymblanter (talk) 12:20, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
- Yes, I will do it later this week. Thanks for adding me to the list.--Ymblanter (talk) 10:36, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
- Done. Ymblanter Would you like to create a similar page on ru:voy? --Andyrom75 (talk) 14:48, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
- Ok, at this point I'll replace the current table with the one above, adding the ru:voy link. --Andyrom75 (talk) 14:41, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
- Sure, I am one of the contributors there.--Ymblanter (talk) 15:51, 17 January 2015 (UTC)
- I'm fine with two tables with admin column. Hello Ymblanter. Remember me ? Good to see you created the page and I hope you also contributing to Russian Wikivoyage. --Saqib (talk) 15:39, 17 January 2015 (UTC)
Recommended social media posts
@JamesA, AndreCarrotflower, Nicholasjf21, Saqib:. Currently our Facebook page is only used for announcing the change of DOTM on the front page. It would be nice to see that expanded. Would having a "suggested social media posts" page be useful? I imagine we would get more interest if we posted interesting travel facts (Wikivoyage:Discover would be a good source of info) and interacted more with other Wikimedia projects. One suggestion I'd make currently is that we should definitely share the "2.5 billion edits" post that Wikimedia just put up, since that's a huge milestone that includes our project:
- Thanks for the suggestion, Ryan. I've gone ahead and shared the Wikipedia post which is a fantastic milestone. Unfortunately, one of the issues with our page is that AndreCarrotflower is the only one of us who really regularly updates it, even if it is just the DOTM/OTBP/FTTs. I like the idea of expanding it out with other relevant posts. We shouldn't post every day, but every 2-3 days is a good amount. Possibly we could come up with these posts in advance, and schedule one or two of them in between our regular DOTM posts? Posts which also encourage responses and involvement are also a good idea, such as trivia questions or asking for opinions. Do you have Facebook, Ryan, as you are welcome to become a page admin? James A ▪ talk 11:14, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
- Yes, I would very much appreciate some more participation on the WV Facebook page. I've been following the example Powers set as administrator of pre-fork WT's Facebook page in posting mostly Dotm/OtBP/FTTs. It does seem like a good idea to expand the scope of what's addressed on our FB page, but it's a bit more than I can handle alone. -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 13:48, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
- JamesA - yes, I'm on Facebook, and Andre has my account details. If you guys want help then I'm happy to assist in administering the page. Barring objection I'll put together a proposed page for scheduling social media posts as soon as time permits, unless someone else beats me to it - I think a Facebook page that generates content that users are more likely to share and "like" would be a very useful tool for promoting the site, and another way to help build community. -- Ryan • (talk) • 14:12, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
- I'm not an admin of the Facebook page (at least I don't think so!), but would be very happy to assist if I can. I definitely agree that we should try to reach out more - a broader social media presence would be great. --Nick talk 22:23, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
- First draft of a nomination page: Wikivoyage:Social media/Nominations, using Template:SocialNom. I would imagine we'll need different fields and formats, but this should hopefully be enough to get the discussion moving. -- Ryan • (talk) • 03:14, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
- I'm happy to be an admin or moderator on the FB page; I believe Andre's found my contact info. Powers (talk) 23:20, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
- Ryan has been added as an admin to the Facebook page and the list of admins. I'd be happy for you to be added too, Powers, considering your experience with the original page. If Andre's busy and doesn't get around to it, send me an email and I can process it as well. James A ▪ talk 08:56, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
- As a side note, our Twitter hasn't been very active as of lately. ϒpsilon (talk) 09:21, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
- I also noticed the lack of activity lately. I've become more of an expert on Twitter, so if Nicholasjf21 or Saqib wanted to add me as an admin on the page, I'd be happy to assist. I saw a few posts the other day that would've been good to retweet, but alas, I don't have access! James A ▪ talk 09:30, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
- I use Twitter quite a bit in my professional life. I'm also happy to try and promote the account as well. Andrewssi2 (talk) 10:25, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
@Wikivoyage on Twitter
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Looking at the Wikivoyage Twitter account, it seems that there have been no tweets (not including retweets) since 29 August 2015 (almost five months ago) with the last retweet being on 8 October 2015. The WV:Social media page says that User:Saqib, User:Nicholasjf21 and User:JamesA are the users running the account, and reading Wikivoyage talk:Social media/Twitter I realise that they are busy and can't always do it. But I'm just wondering whether there's anyway of getting the account more active, because I would think that Twitter would be a great way of making Wikivoyage more well know. Thanks. Seagull123 Φ 19:54, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
- It would be great to start tweeting our DOTM, as well as a mechanism to tweet articles that has been significantly updated. --Andrewssi2 (talk) 22:32, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
- @Andrewssi2, Saqib, Nicholasjf21, JamesA: Is there any further information about the Twitter account? I seriously think that the account could be a great way of getting Wikivoyage out there. Seagull123 Φ 22:20, 31 January 2016 (UTC)
- I don't have access to the account, but check out Wikivoyage:Social_media/Twitter --Andrewssi2 (talk) 22:51, 31 January 2016 (UTC)
- User:Seagull123: I have been making regular tweets last year but I'm sorry now I don't have really interest in Twitter. So yes you're most welcome to use it but I'm afraid I cannot get you log-in details. I suggest you to to contact User:Nicholasjf21. --Saqib (talk) 09:06, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
- I don't have access to the account, but check out Wikivoyage:Social_media/Twitter --Andrewssi2 (talk) 22:51, 31 January 2016 (UTC)
- I would suggest putting a strategy together first. To build up a good presence on Twitter you obviously have to keep up a regular tweets and respond to referrals, otherwise you will lose momentum.
- We actually do have a good supply of guide articles ready to deploy, and we should be responding (tastefully) to events in the news, for example today we could highlight Myanmar as the new pro-democracy parliament sits today. Iowa for the presidential candidate debates, Melbourne for the Australian Tennis Open. Andrewssi2 (talk) 09:44, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
- I do have access to the account and could give an administrator or a user approved by the community access to the account. Unfortunately, I'm pretty stretched for time these days so can only contribute to the wiki intermittently and have no time for our Twitter. Ping me again if it's decided to give the login details to someone :) James A ▪ talk 20:45, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
(undent) I understand that you're all busy, so I understand why there haven't been many tweets (although the account does look pretty good). So maybe we could find someone who has enough time to do regular tweets and responses who could help with the Twitter account. Do we know anyone on WV who could do this? Seagull123 Φ 16:04, 6 February 2016 (UTC)
Suggestion for Twitter - quick and easy fix (I guess)
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Our Twitter seems to have become largely dormant. I suggest the following Quick and easy fix in absence of anything more elaborate that would need more resources. Let's just have it tweet our "discovers" with links once they enter the discover main page. Thus far we have always produced enough discover sniplets and it may be able to be implemented with an automated system. What do you think? I think it's better than nothing, absent an enthusiastic user manning our Twitter handle... Hobbitschuster (talk) 21:50, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
- @Hobbitschuster: This idea sounds good, as it only needs someone to copy and paste the sniplets (I like that word) into Twitter, and having just checked, most of the ones at the bottom of WV:Discover are under 140 characters. Seagull123 Φ 21:32, 17 April 2016 (UTC)
- @Hobbitschuster: @Seagull123: I usually tweet using the italian Wikivoyage Twitter account (with only few followers). I can suggest to schedule tweet using tweetdeck: in an hour it's possible to schedule many tweets (especially if you already have the text to copy and paste) and then you don't have to remember daily/weekly to post a new tweet. I hope to have been useful. --Lkcl it (Talk) 18:49, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks. Anybody else got an opinion on that? Ikan? Hobbitschuster (talk) 19:24, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
- I don't really have an opinion, except that if you'd like to handle the Twitter account, great! Ikan Kekek (talk) 00:48, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks. Anybody else got an opinion on that? Ikan? Hobbitschuster (talk) 19:24, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
- @Hobbitschuster: @Seagull123: I usually tweet using the italian Wikivoyage Twitter account (with only few followers). I can suggest to schedule tweet using tweetdeck: in an hour it's possible to schedule many tweets (especially if you already have the text to copy and paste) and then you don't have to remember daily/weekly to post a new tweet. I hope to have been useful. --Lkcl it (Talk) 18:49, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
- @Lkcl_it, Hobbitschuster: The idea of scheduling tweets sounds good, as then it lessens the workload of anyone using the account even more than just copy and pasting from Discover daily. Seagull123 Φ 21:10, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
Calling all administrators of Wikivoyage's Facebook page
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I'm posting this in the pub for higher visibility.
For various reasons, I recently temporarily deactivated my Facebook account. Before I did, I wrote up the three links and blurbs that our Facebook page usually posts every month for our DotM/OtBP/FTT candidates, and scheduled them to be posted on February 1st, 11th, and 21st, respectively, under the assumption that I'd be back on Facebook by the time March rolls around.
I was recently signed on to my alternate Facebook account, which remains activated but is not listed as an admin of our Facebook page. I noticed that the Facebook post that I'd scheduled to go live today sometime during the 5:00PM US EST hour, announcing Hobart as this month's DotM, hasn't appeared yet. Can someone who's an admin sign on and confirm that the three posts I wrote up weren't somehow deleted when I deactivated my Facebook?
Pinging Ryan, who I know is an admin; I'm not sure who else is.
-- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 23:10, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
- Your post was scheduled to go live at 4:47 PM Pacific, so I've changed that to "publish now" and it is now live. A note to anyone who has suggestions for Facebook posts: please place those suggestions at Wikivoyage:Social media/Nominations. -- Ryan • (talk) • 00:06, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
Wikivoyage on Facebook
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Ryan's apparently indefinite hiatus has included his resignation as an administrator for Wikivoyage's official Facebook page, leaving me as the only remaining active one. It probably shouldn't be that way. Does anyone else want in? -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 00:40, 12 August 2017 (UTC)
- Anyone? -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 00:33, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
- Just curious given that I haven't checked out the WV FB page. How busy is it? --Andrewssi2 (talk) 02:51, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
- I enjoy commenting on and liking the WV FB page posts. The workload seems manageable (three posts a month, one each on DOTM, OTBP and FTT). I can commit as long as there are other people available as a backup. My editing patterns are unpredictable and I cannot guarantee being active on the 2nd, 12th and 22nd of every month (which is when the posts seem to be made). Gizza (roam) 03:54, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
- It's not a problem for me to continue to update the DotM/OtBP/FTT posts on our Facebook page. Ideally, though, these shouldn't be the only things our Facebook account posts. Wikivoyage:Social media prescribes that "posts may include... major feature updates to Wikivoyage and other interesting travel news or activities", and to that end there is a nominations page where we're supposed to suggest tidbits that might be rebroadcast on our social media accounts, but it hasn't seen any use for some time. -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 04:32, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
- Hmmm good point. The WT Facebook article (with more likes and followers than us) posts blog and news articles related to travel too. Maybe we can do that and/or post quotes that inspire people to travel. Another option is to post more content directly from WV other than one of the three usuals but would still need to be of high quality (ideally at least a guide) and relevant in some way. Gizza (roam) 13:10, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
- I'd be happy to admin the FB page. I was doing WT before the migration. Powers (talk) 01:22, 6 September 2017 (UTC)
- Just in case the above didn't get seen while it was in the Pub, I will bring attention to it again. Powers (talk) 01:07, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
Powers, I somehow missed the above message. If you're still interested, please send a private message to the Wikivoyage page on Facebook and I'll give you admin status. -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 22:35, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
- Powers, I've received your admin request. If you haven't already, please check your private message folder on Facebook (including the "Connection requests" section). -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 07:04, 31 December 2017 (UTC)
Medium
I just found out that i own @Wikivoyage at Medium. I think it was probably about the same time I was doing twitter for wikivoyage. Anyway - I don't think Medium is ever going to be a forum for Wikivoyage stuff, so I was thinking of deleting it. Anyone with a contrary opinion speak now - or forever.. Inas (talk) 05:02, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
Telegram channel for enwikivoyage
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Do you have a Telegram channel for English Wikivoyage? --Zerabat (talk) 15:47, 22 July 2018 (UTC)
- Seems unnecessary since the service has seen a steep decline over the last 10-15 years. ArticCynda (talk) 22:12, 22 July 2018 (UTC)
- Some of our articles still use it - ocean liners and RMS Titanic, for instance, and the whole heritage railways topic is steam-powered. K7L (talk) 23:35, 22 July 2018 (UTC)
- I suspect that Zerbat is talking about https://telegram.org/ rather than old-fashioned telegrams. WhatamIdoing (talk) 23:57, 22 July 2018 (UTC)
- Yes, you suspected right. There's no way I'd be talking about telegraphy nowadays. But by the way, it is still used to send private injunctions (legal stuff...), at least in some countries. Do you have a Telegram messenger group or feed? --Zerabat (talk) 00:20, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
- It looks like a random messaging app abusing a well-known word. Is it big enough that you cannot ignore it or is there some specific reason to endorse it? --LPfi (talk) 10:53, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
- The unfortunate naming will be too easily confused with telegraphy indeed, so I'd suggest choosing a more "universal" tool like IRC or XMPP (Jitsi, Pidgin etc.) that most people will know. However, I don't think there is a real need for this, the pub seems to be a better place to centralize discussions. ArticCynda (talk) 11:17, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
- It looks like a random messaging app abusing a well-known word. Is it big enough that you cannot ignore it or is there some specific reason to endorse it? --LPfi (talk) 10:53, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
- Yes, you suspected right. There's no way I'd be talking about telegraphy nowadays. But by the way, it is still used to send private injunctions (legal stuff...), at least in some countries. Do you have a Telegram messenger group or feed? --Zerabat (talk) 00:20, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
Why no instagram page?
Does anyone know why Wikivoyage doesn't have an official instagram, account? SHB2000 (talk) 10:43, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
Wikivoyage Instagram Page
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I noticed we have a facebook and a twitter wikivoyage page. And I get it, facebook and twitter are the most popular social media sites. However, in the past few years, the younger society (e.g. Gen Z and Millennials) tend to use more Instagram than FB or Twitter. And being a millennial myself, I and many others that I know, do not use Facebook or Twitter as well. And while I appreciate that no other major wikivoyage has an instagram page, I'm sure that half of us probably use or have Instagram.
When the way society changes, so do we. And only using Facebook and Twitter might mean less readers to Wikivoyage. We wouldn't be using a 1998 software wouldn't we, but rather a 2017 or later. And I think we should also have one.
And I'm only suggesting that we do posts, and not create travel related tik tok videos on reels, or do any advertising on reels. Just what we did on FB and twitter.
And while I appreciate that Instagram prevents you from posting from a desktop, there is a way, and I know how to do this. (email me if you want to know) And if no one is willing to do the job, I'm more than happy to manage the page.
SHB2000 (talk | contribs | en.wikipedia) 12:12, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
- In principle it's a good idea, but where would the photos come from and what would they show? Are you thinking of photos of destinations we cover (perhaps featured articles/star articles etc), or pictures of the articles themselves (e.g. demos of listing editor, maps etc)? Have you thought about how the copyright would work? --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 12:28, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
- We do this with the WV facebook and twitter page - could do the same with those. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | en.wikipedia) 12:30, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
- The last post at https://www.facebook.com/wikivoyage.org was over 2 months ago. We missed a few DotMs, OtBPs, and FTTs. https://twitter.com/Wikivoyage hasn't been updated since mid 2018.
- I have an Instagram account, but I rarely look at it. I think you meant Gen Z, not X, as "younger society". I'm X and certainly not young!
- Anyway, it would be great to explore the various avenues available to spread the "gospel" of Wikivoyage, if we can keep posting new, fresh content. If we can restart regular updates on FB and Twitter, it may be a good idea to post links on the Main Page, similar to what's done at Wikivoyage:Social media. Nelson Ricardo (talk) 13:05, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
- We do this with the WV facebook and twitter page - could do the same with those. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | en.wikipedia) 12:30, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
- Sorry, yes I meant Gen Z. Was too tired and it's around 23:00 here. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | en.wikipedia) 13:08, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
- What is the Instagram copyright policy? Do you have to give a license to them, on their terms? That would exclude pretty much everything except your own photos – which of course might be what they want (OK, Commons has many CC-zero and PD images, but still). –LPfi (talk) 13:47, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
- "Strictly speaking, when users upload an image to Instagram, they do not forfeit their copyright. Instead, Instagram’s Terms of Use operate so as to give the social media platform a non-exclusive, fully paid and royalty-free transferable, sub-licence to use the content. This means that Instagram can license images from the site to others – including other Instagram users who can ‘regram’ images (repost photos) from accounts that they follow without infringing copyright." That is -- you retain copyright, which you can release under a free license. Vaticidalprophet (talk) 15:25, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
- You might be interested in seeing what others are dong: m:Social media. WhatamIdoing (talk) 20:15, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
- On copyright and social media, I'd point to this Meta-Wiki page that the Wikimedia Foundation's legal team updated last year. The ed17 (talk) 21:04, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
- A good idea in theory as others have said but deciding what we should use it for (as well as not running into any copyright issues) is the challenging part. The ideal images to showcase on social media would be our banners, but Instagram's aspect ratio is markedly different to the aspect ratio of the banners. If we had enough active and capable editors, ideally we would have our own YouTube channel. I believe there is a user on the Chinese Wikivoyage who has a small channel but we don't have an English one. Gizza (roam) 02:41, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
- On copyright and social media, I'd point to this Meta-Wiki page that the Wikimedia Foundation's legal team updated last year. The ed17 (talk) 21:04, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
- You might be interested in seeing what others are dong: m:Social media. WhatamIdoing (talk) 20:15, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
- "Strictly speaking, when users upload an image to Instagram, they do not forfeit their copyright. Instead, Instagram’s Terms of Use operate so as to give the social media platform a non-exclusive, fully paid and royalty-free transferable, sub-licence to use the content. This means that Instagram can license images from the site to others – including other Instagram users who can ‘regram’ images (repost photos) from accounts that they follow without infringing copyright." That is -- you retain copyright, which you can release under a free license. Vaticidalprophet (talk) 15:25, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
- What is the Instagram copyright policy? Do you have to give a license to them, on their terms? That would exclude pretty much everything except your own photos – which of course might be what they want (OK, Commons has many CC-zero and PD images, but still). –LPfi (talk) 13:47, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
@DaGizza: - I've had this issue of sizing while posting. But Insta gives you the option to zoom out, - even out of the image. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | en.wikipedia) 08:28, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
- As they don't seem to accept any copyleft licences, they won't get any of my pictures (unless I especially make some available for the purpose). And as the licence they require is a custom one, it is unlikely that it is covered by any licences on Commons, except PD and CC-zero where applicable. –LPfi (talk) 07:53, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- LPfi, are you sure you read that right? You completely retain your copyright for images released to Instagram, and can release it however you want; Instagram's licensing is simply so that people can share images within the website without violating all-rights-reserved copyrights, as for any other social media site. Vaticidalprophet (talk) 20:10, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Vaticidalprophet: The Instagram user retains their copyright, but they are required to license the photo to Instagram, and to third parties, under the Instagram licence. If you upload my photo to Instagram, it could be published somewhere else without any mention of the CC-BY-SA licence I demand to be mentioned when my photos are used. –LPfi (talk) 08:28, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
- LPfi, are you sure you read that right? You completely retain your copyright for images released to Instagram, and can release it however you want; Instagram's licensing is simply so that people can share images within the website without violating all-rights-reserved copyrights, as for any other social media site. Vaticidalprophet (talk) 20:10, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
Is this the official Twitter page and if so, is anyone looking after it currently? The last tweet was in 2018 :O https://twitter.com/wikivoyage Crookesmoor (talk) 16:41, 6 October 2022 (UTC)