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New banner for Covid-19 box (2021)[edit]

I'm having trouble finding suitable images of masks, as masks themselves aren't very interesting, and so a lot of pictures have people in them, which I don't think we want. Here are three suggestions, but I think we should wait for some more proposals from other people before we start voting. Ground Zero (talk) 15:29, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

I like the last one best. Thanks. Ikan Kekek (talk) 17:36, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
The "last one" refers to Banner D as the comment was posted before I added Banner E. Ground Zero (talk) 22:21, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
As a multilingual project, we should aim for an image that's as light on text as possible. I prefer AlasdairW's proposed banner. -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 20:52, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
That banner is File:Surgical masks and hand sanitiser banner.jpg. I don't think it's much lighter in text than the Russian one. I like it 2nd best, but I like the fact that the Russian banner shows how to wear a mask. And please, let's not assume all our readers know how to wear a mask properly or do it all the time. Ikan Kekek (talk) 21:09, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
Actually, this is an English-language project — there are other versions of Wikivoyage that operate in other languages. I chose non-English-language images to keep with the travel theme. I looked at AlasdairW's banner, and it took me a while to find the masks because they are folded and wrapped in plastic. What really shows up there is the hand sanitiser, but I have added it to the list for consideration as "Banner E". Ground Zero (talk) 21:24, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

Some other ideas I can resize into banners if there us interest. Ground Zero (talk) 21:53, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

Definitely not the first, with the guy on the left having his nose exposed and the one on the right touching the top of his mask. I'm satisfied with the selection above, though. Ikan Kekek (talk) 23:26, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
"Taking temperatures" is in my opinion the best of these images. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 21:41, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
If you'd like something more icon-like, then the World Health Organization has released some images, and it might be possible to crop/assemble some of them into a useful banner with plenty of room for text. Here are the files I'd start with:

Unfortunately, they're all "bitmap" images rather than vector images, but I suspect that it would be fairly easy to extract a few pieces. WhatamIdoing (talk) 22:32, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

I think there is a lot of information in those images, which would be better in the COVID-19 article than in a banner. Ground Zero (talk) 13:34, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
I actually really like these. If we took just a row of the circular images illustrating mask usage and hand washing, with no text, and expand the background color to fill, I think that would make a very simple and straightforward image. --Bigpeteb (talk) 20:07, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
Changing my vote to the NYPL lion with the mask on. Emphatically. -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 02:59, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
I still think that if we're going to change the image, it ought to be the one that shows the temperature gun being used. Diagnosing coronavirus is crucial to containing it, and temperature checks take place at so many buildings now that it's one of the main experiences people associate with COVID-19. When animals start catching coronavirus in large numbers I might change my vote. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 16:16, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

Second round[edit]

I was hoping for more input from others before proceeding. But in the interest of moving this along, here are the banners that have attracted support so far. I'm not able to cut-and-paste the WHO images as Bigpeteb suggested. If someone can do that, please add it to this list. @SelfieCity, AndreCarrotflower, WhatamIdoing, Ikan Kekek, AlasdairW: -- Ground Zero (talk) 17:17, 9 January 2021 (UTC).

Banner D (PPE for sale in Moscow)


Banner E (Anti-A gel)


Banner F (Taking temperatures)


Banner G (New York Public Library Lions)


Banner H (Moai in masks)


Discussion[edit]

  • My choices in order of preference: H D G F E, then the WHO graphic. Wikivoyage is not the first place readers will be getting COVID19 information from as it has been front-and-centre in the media for 10 months now, so I think we should lean toward a simpler travel-related picture, rather than worrying about trying to educate readers through a banner. Ground Zero (talk) 17:17, 9 January 2021 (UTC).
  • Seeing these all in a row changes my votes somewhat. D, F, H, G, E. Ikan Kekek (talk) 22:16, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
  • E,F,H,D,G. I looked at creating an image using the WHO posters, and I think it would be a bit of work for this shape of banner. However they crop quite well into a normal pagebanner. I have posted this on Talk:COVID-19 pandemic, but I am not suggesting changing that banner at the moment. AlasdairW (talk) 23:01, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
  • G, H, E, current banner, F, WHO graphic, D. -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 00:18, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
  • I like the statues wearing masks so G & H. F is also good as it is something you will experience if you do travel during the pandemic. User:DaGizza
  • H then G for me. The others are less interesting to me. ChubbyWimbus (talk) 11:24, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
  • H, F, G, D, E. Incorporate WHO graphics into the article, but they don't work as banners because you'll have text on top of text.--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 12:33, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
  • F, E, G, D, H. The moai aren’t wearing the masks per CDC guidelines. It’s not covering the chin and barely covering the nose. I maintain that F is by far the most practical of the images. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 12:40, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
Its true that the masks aren't covering the chin, but they are giant sone heads, so I don't think image has to be viewed literally. I would agree if we were showing a person wearing a mask incorrectly. Ground Zero (talk) 12:23, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
  • H and G, in no particular order. It might help to see them with the text overlay, the way they'd appear in the banner. Also, can we flip H and G horizontally? That would put the focal point of those images on the right, so it doesn't overlap with the text overlay on the left. --Bigpeteb (talk) 19:59, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
The text on a main page banner can be at the left, right or in the centre, and there is a width parameter, so the text can be moved to fit the image. See the examples on Wikivoyage:Destination of the month candidates/Banners. AlasdairW (talk) 21:04, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
You people keep forcing me to learn new things.... I've added the text overlay. If anyone can make improvements, they are welcome. Ground Zero (talk) 22:03, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

Counting the votes[edit]

Here is the tally of the first-ranked votes according to Dominion Voting Systems Inc.:

  • H — 4½ votes
  • G — 2½ votes
  • D E F — one vote each

After allocating the D E F votes according to preferences between G and H:

  • H — 6½ votes
  • G — 3½ votes

Does anyone else want to vote?
Does anyone want to change their vote?
Does anyone want to audit the count?
Ground Zero (talk) 12:23, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

I'm happy with either G or H. Also, if you'll let work-me slip into the conversation here for a moment, @PPelberg (WMF) has been thinking about how people use votes on wiki and may be very interested in seeing this discussion. WhatamIdoing (talk) 16:49, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
Oh, wow. This is precisely the kind of vote I'm glad to know about...thank you for the ping, @WhatamIdoing. I've added a link to this vote to the ticket where we are thinking about how we might add support for voting-style discussions. See: phab:T259865. PPelberg (WMF) (talk) 00:49, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

Seeing no objections or guys wearing furs and horns, I've implemented banner H. Ground Zero (talk) 01:24, 16 January 2021 (UTC)