Wikivoyage talk:Community portal

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enabling vector.js scripts

I've just added a script to my userspace, but it doesn't seem to load. The vector page and the script seem to be active, but the user buttons are not appearing where the should – in fact, they are totally absent. What do I need to do to get this operational? Thanks, --Ohconfucius (talk) 03:32, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

Climate effects of travel

I am a scientist, general wiki-booster and occasional contributor to Wikipedia, both edits and $. I am concerned about CO2 and climate change, and travel contributes to these problems. I am troubled that Wikivoyage promotes travel, thereby indirectly contributing to serious problems for our planet. Sure travel is fun, and enriches our minds, but the long-term cost is getting harder and harder to deny. It seems irresponsible that Wikivoyage appears to contain nothing acknowledging this dangerous downside to travel.

Sadly, I feel that my love and support for Wikimedia are jeopardized by this unbalanced cheerleading for a risky human activity. If we can steer the Project toward *knowledge* without promoting *travel*, we will retain the support of a growing group of climate-concerned people everywhere. Otherwise, it risks losing that support and shares responsibility for serious climate consequences that are already observed worldwide.

At the very least, there should be a note acknowledging the issue, that travel has this downside.

I'm sorry for sounding so harsh, but tThat's the stupidest and most ignorant thing I've ever seen posted on this wiki or Wikipedia for that matter (although I haven't spent time browsing many conspiracy theory pages). If you want to live in a live like a Stone-age person in order to be carbon-neutral, fine. However, the notion that this wiki shouldn't exist or should promote "knowledge" not "travel" (if we didn't include "travel" info, then this would just a copy of Wikipedia for geographical destinations) is nonsense. The fact is people travel...not just long-distances for leisure, but for business, meeting family/friends, and simply going to events in nearby towns. We have a page on Ecotourism where you are welcome to add a section about travel & climate change. You are also welcome to Plunge forward and create a page on Climate-conscious travel, where you are welcome to knock yourself out writing hundreds of words on the how irresponsible travel is. There are carbon-offset programs available and travelers don't necessarily have to use inefficient means of transport (there are some people who spend months cycling across half a continent and sailboats are also a climate-friendly means of transport). If you're such a huge wiki-booster, you've only racked up 5 edits on Wikipedia & 4 edits here. If you feel your love & support for WMF are jeopardized, then you're a fair-weather supporter for wikis, because this is about increasing the knowledge base for humanity...whether it's an encyclopedia, dictionary/thesaurus, literature, or travel. I'd go on, but I sense a troll...someone care to perform a checkuser? AHeneen (talk) 02:41, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

A checkuser would only be necessary if we suspect someone is using multiple accounts to be disruptive. I don't see a reason to suspect either of those things in this case. --Peter ^Talk 06:16, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Change name to Community portal?

I never really liked the name of this page. It actually took me years before I found out what the purpose of this page was. How about we rename it to "Community portal"? To me it is a lot more recognizable and easier to understand. Globe-trotter (talk) 00:46, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

I'm fine with a name change, but "Community Portal" never made much sense to me either. LtPowers (talk) 02:34, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

What is the purpose of this page? --Peter ^Talk 04:38, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Basically a page to organize the (most important) pages related to the project. It has all our various projects and major topics organized for new(er) users. I've used this page a number of times over the last few months and find it useful, but it may work better to add links to even more pages. AHeneen (talk) 06:30, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Lead states: "The Project Home is the central place for collaborations, helping out and getting involved in the Wikivoyage project. Learn what tasks need to be done, find out more about how the project works and how you can help, and share news about recent events or current activities."

The name "Project" is reminiscent of Wikipedia's Projects, which are similar. "Community portal" will probably bring Wikipedia Portals to mind for many readers. Neither is particularly enlightening to the general public. Since the page is linked from the sidebar, it is not essential to have an obvious search string name, just one which is short enoufg for the sidebar, and which tells the user what to expect. Since it is already under the header "Get involved", that option is not available. Something that suggests a list of things to do, like "Give a hand", "Job jar", "Snag list", "Help out" or "Help us build" might be useful. • • • Peter (Southwood) ^(talk): 07:41, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

What about just "Overview"? Or "Project overview"? "Behind the scenes"? LtPowers (talk) 21:01, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

"Behind the scenes," or "under the hood," might be good. --Peter ^Talk 01:45, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

So, I changed the name to "Community portal", but only because it's known like that by other Wikimedia sites. I still don't think it's a great name, so still open to changes. To give this page a new chance, I've given it a new look as well. I hope it's more useful this way, and of course, I'm open to suggestions. Globe-trotter (talk) 10:28, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

The Price of Sleep... a local currency

Is there a common Policy on the use of £ and $ and other currencies? I note that on this town's article, which is a town in Wales, UK, the prices are in dollars, whereas the currency in Wales is UK Sterling. Is there a policy? Secondly, can we not automate this, so that the currency appears in the User's own localised currency? Llywelyn2000 (talk) 10:42, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

Yes, Wikivoyage:Currency. The local currency is always used in our guides, with the exception of some third world countries whose currencies are weak, inflation is high, and many businesses conduct transactions in a foreign currency (like the $ or €). Another minor exception is when fees are payable only in a non-local currency, such as a visa for an African country which can only be paid as US$100 and not in local currency. One issue with automating currency conversions is that it may be more helpful to keep prices in the units travelers will see. A hotel that is £89/night or a restaurant where the price range is €6-10 looks better than $138.08/night or £5.17-11.61 and travelers need to become familiar with the local currency. AHeneen (talk) 04:25, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

I agree, the local currency should come first, but the visitor's own currency could follow in brackets? Llywelyn2000 (talk) 19:49, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

There was some discussion about using a currency conversion extension used on WikiOverland. See: Wikivoyage talk:Cooperating with Wikioverland. AHeneen (talk) 23:44, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

Many thanks. It'll come! Llywelyn2000 (talk) 15:57, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

[Citation needed]

I'm quite new to Wikivoyage, but I've read a few articles and I really think there's a need for citation, like on Wikipedia. To me at least, having no citations (like, say, from the New York Times or Lonely Planet) for statements such as, for example, how Americans don't need to worry about getting shit (pardon my French) for being American when visiting Iran really downgrades the value of this site as a source for someone interested in traveling to a particular country. It could even put people in danger. KXN (talk) 23:33, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Why is Lonely Planet considered a source that doesn't need citations, but Wikivoyage is? LtPowers (talk) 01:41, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

KXN - there is definitely an interest in finding ways to make Wikivoyage guides more reliable (see Wikivoyage:Business listings reliability Expedition for one example), but at the same time a travel guide needs to allow subjective opinions and information that may not be possible to to verify with references. Examples of where we've talked about implementing additional references include things like pointers to state department travel warnings for Template:Warningbox#Travel advisories, but an outright switch to Wikipedia-style references and citations as a general policy would likely not be viable for this site. If you can suggest additional ideas for improving reliability other than simply adopting Wikipedia references standards, that discussion would be valuable. -- Ryan • (talk) • 02:22, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

LtPowers, I'm unfamiliar with Lonely Planet; I was just using it as an example, because I thought they were like a reputable source. And Ryan, that does make sense. Thanks. KXN (talk) 03:50, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

ShareMap - Wikimedia grant

Hello, WikiVoyagers ShareMap is applying for Wikimedia grant to continue project development. One of ShareMap principles is preparing map authoring usable for WikiVoyage authors and readers (even if it is not very project in Wikimedia scale, we really believe in its success).

One of grant results will be creation free mobile off line map viewer application for maps created by Wikimedia community.

I will be very happy for endorsement, opinions or even criticism from all WikiVoyage community member on Wikimedia grant project.

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG/ShareMap#Part_3:_Community_Discussion

If you would like to learn more about ShareMap project please visit:

• ShareMap Twitter Channel
• ShareMap Wikimedia Commons Page

--Jkan997 (talk) 23:09, 12 October 2013 (UTC)

Hi!Thanks for posting! I think you'll receive a better response in the pub, so I've copied your post there. :) --Nick ^talk 23:15, 12 October 2013 (UTC)

Copyright problem!

Please take a look at a post I wrote on the talk page of the article about the island of Nevis. Invertzoo (talk) 00:14, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi! Thanks for letting us know! You'll probably receive a larger response in the pub, so I've copied your post there. I'll have a look into this. --Nick ^talk 00:33, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

Sandbox

So the boxes content stays together except when viewed with Chrome. Ideas? --Traveler100 (talk) 20:01, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

@Traveler100: Looking at it now, what was wrong with the way the boxes are currently done? I'm not 100% sure what was changed, but tables in general are already reasonably scalable at mobile resolutions. It should be possible to adapt them if slight changes are needed and cause fewer unforeseen bugs. ARR8 (talk | contribs) 00:15, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

I believe the sandbox was created because there were issues with the mobile version. Personally, I think the boxes should be in as few columns as possible, since more columns would probably mean more problems. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 00:31, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

I see. Well, all that should be needed is a new CSS rule to change the width from 47% to 100% for mobile devices. To that end, the boxes should probably be moved into a template, and the current inline styles, as well as the new rule, moved into templatestyles. Traveler100, any thoughts? ARR8 (talk | contribs) 00:53, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

Yes, version in sandbox is because current active one does not work at all well on mobile. I assume idea is to pass text into a template, sounds a good idea. --Traveler100 (talk) 05:42, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

@Traveler100: As you may have seen, I've avoided the need for a template by adding a new stylesheet to the existing one. I've cleaned the code up, though it's still a bit disorganized, and added mobile compatibility. ARR8 (talk | contribs) 23:43, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

@ARR8: awesome. Do you want to make the sandbox version live. One more step to making this site better for mobile. --Traveler100 (talk) 06:57, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

Done ARR8 (talk | contribs) 07:25, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

@ARR8: thanks. Request quick tip to help me with my learning process on using div not tables. What is forcing the blocks to the right so that they are dividing left and right rather than just one after another? Do not need full training class but hit where to look in the code so I can do some background research. --Traveler100 (talk) 08:00, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

@Traveler100: Sure. The great thing about this system is that nothing is "forcing" the boxes to the right at all. It works like this: the total width of the available space is 100% (as intuition would suggest). Per the CSS rules for .community-container, the width of the item itself is 47% and the margin to the left and right of each is 1%, adding up to a total of 49% width. The containers also have the float:left property, so that each will go to the left. Now, when the right column is added, it does not have that property, and it takes the width of its child elements, which is still 49%, because they are the same containers as before. So, it uses the available 51% to the right. float:left does apply to the containers inside the right column, but it only keeps them to the left within the column, not the whole page. I hope that's clear; let me know if you have other questions. ARR8 (talk | contribs) 17:26, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

So where am I going wrong here:- Template:Bottomboxesn/sandbox ? --Traveler100 (talk) 17:36, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

You did everything right, but the new stylesheet wasn't included. I've put it in now, and it seems to work well. ARR8 (talk | contribs) 17:42, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protect the Community Portal

The community portal does not need to be edited by any non-autoconfirmed users. Shouldn't we semi-protect to avoid vandalism? --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 13:45, 21 May 2019 (UTC)

Lehigh Valley International Airport

Does this airport meet the test for airport articles under Wikivoyage:What is an article?#Exceptions? @Keystone18, SHB2000: Ground Zero (talk) 03:36, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

Seems to be a small domestic airport with only four airlines operating. I’d say it doesn’t SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 03:53, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

And 2 runways. No. Ikan Kekek (talk) 08:21, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

West Bengal does not show up on map

At Bengali phrasebook, West Bengal (red) does not show on the map. This is new map software for me, and I can't figure out what's wrong. I verified the wikidata code. Perhaps the shape isn't defined? Same problem on WV-bn. Please ping, as I'm not here much. Kwamikagami (talk) 06:50, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

IRC link

Given that IRC is absolutely dead nowadays (including the Wikivoyage channel), any objections to removing the link on this page? //shb (t | c | m) 01:23, 24 September 2025 (UTC)